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Apr 2 2018 09:47am
Quote (Ghot @ Apr 2 2018 09:54am)
He was using the word criminal in the loose sense, as in: broke the law. English much?
Since Trump took office he has made it illegal as per Federal law. Things have changed a bit.


/e On a side note, it doesn't really matter whether it's a civil or criminal offense. If you are in the country illegally (for whatever reason) you will be deported under this president.


Speed limits are the law. You are making my case.

Change it to shopifting a candy bar 10 years ago if you want.

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Apr 2 2018 10:22am
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to be fair, i would not be surprised if this actually was a factor. i think that's a valid argument to make, but ofc you would act like it accounts for all of the difference.

I didnt claim that this factor makes up all the difference. but it disproves the "trump is weaker at deporting ppl than obama" argument that you brought up. also note that the deportation numbers under obama varied a lot between years.

look here, for example:

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

not only can we see that obama deported a lot less people than bush or clinton, the number of deportations during his presidency fell sharply over the years. he started "strong" with 970k in his first year in office, but ended with less than half that at 450k in his final year.


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what we also should not forget is the FACT that trump's #1 target on immigration issues, mexico, has currently a NEGATIVE immigration balance with the usa. that makes buildin 'the wall', something trump prominently promised his voters mexico would pay for and now wants to spend billions of taxpayer money on, even more absurd than ever before.


um, I hope you do realize that mexico is a transit country for almost all illegal immigrants coming to the US from central america. there are no longer a lot of mexicans coming across the southern border, but there are still a lot illegal immigrants coming from mexico across the southern border.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/02/trump-administration-seeking-to-speed-deportations-will-impose-quotas-on-federal-immigration-judges/?utm_term=.6c0111a89b74

quotas got confirmed, judges are rated as 'satisfactory' in their performance review if they clear 700 cases per year
As with all judiciary self-policing, its entirely discretionary
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Apr 2 2018 05:35pm
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Speed limits are the law. You are making my case.


They are laws. Whats is your point?

Quote (Skinned @ Apr 2 2018 11:47am)
Change it to shopifting a candy bar 10 years ago if you want.


Its sad how Democrats have to resort to zany metaphors to make their fantasies relevant
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Apr 2 2018 05:37pm
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They are laws. Whats is your point?



Its sad how Democrats have to resort to zany metaphors to make their fantasies relevant


Just showing where your reasoning goes if you follow its logical conclusion. Ethics are universal.. If legal deontology is your reason then own it and quit being a hypocrite.
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Just showing where your reasoning goes if you follow its logical conclusion. Ethics are universal.. If legal deontology is your reason then own it and quit being a hypocrite.


I've never argued that either crimes shouldn't be punished. You are incredibly desperate
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Apr 2 2018 05:48pm
And the useless academic disappears again into irrelevance, where he belongs.
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will be interesting to watch what happens!
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Trump signs memo ending 'catch and release' immigration policy

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-memo/trump-signs-memo-ending-catch-and-release-immigration-policy-idUSKCN1HD31Q



U.S. attorney general renews calls to prosecute first-time border crossers

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/u-s-attorney-general-renews-calls-to-prosecute-first-time-border-crossers-idUSKCN1HD2VM

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Pointing to an upswing in border crossings to levels seen during former President Barack Obama’s tenure, Sessions said he was ordering U.S. attorneys offices near the Southwest border to prioritize bringing cases against first-time offenders.

Once border crossers are charged with illegal entry and deported, they can be charged with a felony carrying significant jail time if they are caught crossing illegally again.




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