If they are both boosting then he is just ignoring his duo's lane and collecting on other lanes while his duo just smashes his lane.

in what world did someone teach you the value of a character? do you base it off watching silver players play? shes been pub stomping for a few days..
if it would help you learn i could invite you to tarzan's discord, all though he will ban u within 5 minutes.. but u can try to argue to the other 30+ challenger
players in the chat bming that kai is a piece of shit lol.

not bork she scales ap and one of her upgrades (her W) upgrades at 100 bonus ap. so by 25-28 minutes u will have all 3 skills upgraded.
if u go crit build you ignore the W upgrade and get blade, i am still playing her because shes busted and fun. i still believe that warrior is the best jung item
and onhit build is better then going crit.

Yeah been seeing some people go nashors for that.
Was just curious since I haven't seen gunblade on her yet.

Thinking about doing
warrior rageblade Bork + berserker grieves for fast q and e upgrade.

This post was edited by potentate on Mar 28 2018 03:41pm

nashors won't get it for you on its own but nashors is a good item, not better replacement then gunblade imo.

This post was edited by GreedyCrabLord on Mar 28 2018 03:39pm

is she better as ap or ad

Don't both give 80ap?
Thought that's why some people were starting d ring bot on her

been seeing either ER or nashors tooth bot.
Doesn't make sense to go ER in jung. Just thought if you were going to go that route, nashors would be a more efficient item considering it gives you the breakpoints to upgrade w faster as well as synergy with rageblade

I've never jungled her tho. So idk if there is some dynamic I'm missing here


Agreed that onhit > crit tho.

This post was edited by potentate on Mar 28 2018 04:07pm

yea but u want a gunblade or blade.. imo testing more blade and it's just not even close.. gunblade is better. rounding out your build if u go nashors and blade is overkill in IAS.. in theory u do not want more then 1 full rotation on squishie and 2-3 on tanks.
if u stack too much attack speed and not enuff other stats you will feel weaker and not carry in some situations.

Yeah I feel you.

Wasn't going to build Bork and nashor together. pretty overkill if going a zeal item as well. Was thinking of a varus type build if going bork

warrior + rageblade seems core. Need to test out some builds + rune setups to see what's most ideal for carrying headache duo jobs

This post was edited by potentate on Mar 28 2018 04:29pm

i'd say currently it's seeming standard build would be.

Warrior, Zerk Boots, Rage blade, Gun blade, hurricane, ie

Warrior, Zerk boots, Rage blade, Gun Blade, Maw, (anything situational per game)



i will say playing into double ap comps.. the maw on her stacked with her r shield seems unfair. hurricane ie feels really good in teamfights were the comp doesn't allow you to dive
anytime you want and requires you to play backline 5v5 till frontline dies. i haven't tried using a hard armor pen item but i would assume it'd fit well with either of the builds as a last item.