Maybe, I'm used to this build though. But I'll check it out.

I looked up probuilds and they are identical but with Dd instead of gunblade, which I might like.

This post was edited by ChrisKz on Apr 19 2018 07:00pm

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=brothersmothers

Thats the acct the guy in this thread was playing on. idk if he is anymore though.

just a reminder.. some people said kai'sa was a bad champion when she came out.. btw she was the #1 rated jungler in dardoc and tarzaned tier list her first 2 patches.. before nerfed was also #1 adc. just putting it there. Still a top 3 adc currently after nerfs.

is she still good at jg?

She was garbage when she came out. Then she got hotfixed and buffed.
The hotfix made her A tier (base AD and CDR on main spammable ability is INSANE for a jungler). The 8.6 buff made her S tier.

V8.5 - March 8th Hotfix
Stats
Base attack damage increased to 65 from 62.46.

Icathian Rain
Cooldown reduced to 8 / 7.5 / 7 / 6.5 / 6 seconds from 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6.
Mana cost reduced to 45 from 55.

V8.6
Stats
Base attack range increased to 525 from 500.

Second Skin
AP ratio per stack increased to 20% - 40% (based on Plasma stacks) AP from 10% - 30% (based on Plasma stacks) AP.
Plasma detonation AP ratio increased to (3.75% per 100 AP) of target's missing health from (2.5% per 100 AP).

Icathian Rain
Range increased to 600 from 575.
AP ratio increased to 40% AP from 20% AP.

Void Seeker
AP ratio reduced to 45% AP from 65% AP.
Supercharge Supercharge
Charge duration reduced to 1.2 - 0.6 (based on bonus attack speed) from 1.5 - 0.75 (based on bonus attack speed).
Minimum movement speed increased to 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75% from 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 / 60%.

Killer Instinct
Radius around enemy champions increased to 525 from 500.
NEW EFFECT: The shield is now granted on-cast. Still lingers for 3 seconds after dash ends.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 18 2018 05:46pm

man you got nuked in this thread

Pretty sure what I just said was correct. lol

nice job quoting updates.. hows for 85% win rate in challenger week 1. i bet that has something to do with the patches your mentioning after the fact that made her not only good but broken. pretty sure you argued with me her viability and said she was only
good when you abused players that didn't know how to play. tarzan started 13-1 on her in challenger, nightblue won like 8 of his first 12.. i won nearly every game i played on her.. but sure your opinion was still factual on this forum, mine never mattered. funny.
but hey your right.. a 51% winrate overall gets 2 buffs.. totally but when you look at the top 1% of players using her she was good from the get go.. but your ability or people in your mmr's ability to play a champion determines the value of a champion.

This post was edited by GreedyCrabLord on May 18 2018 10:42pm

Her jungle clear got buffed huge by that hotfix... 20% less cooldown on Q and a base AD buff. Her win rate literally went up like 4% from it.

Also you played in gold. And Nightblue only smurfs (and is overall a bad player). I don't know if Tarzaned was smurfing but he does do that a lot as well.
Not a very good sample of games. You could climb in those elos with pretty much anything.

From the challengers I watched that actually play in master+ elo (Bjergsen, Imaqtpie, Shiphtur) she was getting destroyed every single game.
But sure, your gold games are a terrific way to see what is balanced.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 18 2018 11:14pm

? how is 60% wr on my acc in chall gold games? tarzan is rank #2 jungler LOL... nightblue has a challenger and a masters account LOL.. what in the world are you talking about?