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Mar 23 2018 12:06am
Quote (fender @ Mar 22 2018 10:03pm)
i see, the REAL victims here are of course the poor police officers who might face some inconveniences, not the DEAD 22 year old UNARMED citizen who was executed in his own backyard.

that's some solid fascist 'logic' i guess. well, hardly surprising coming from someone who tried to blame and shame the survivors of a school shooting, calling them psychopaths and actors...



I guaran-fuckin-tee based on response this guy had a lengthy arrest record, cops dont just send out nv helicopters based on “he might have a gun”

I hate these bullshit racebait threads because the example is always human garbage that absolutely deserved to die
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Mar 23 2018 12:15am
you know you are ACTUAL "human garbage" if you consider this a "racebait" thread, even though i did not make a SINGLE reference to his race.
not that considering the police officers executing an unarmed man as "victims" and stating that someone "deserves to die" (for having a criminal record?!) didn't already give it away...
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Line of death, you cross it and your freedoms no longer exist
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Mar 23 2018 12:20am
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Mar 23 2018 12:28am
Officers in this shooting jumped the gun far too early (Officer who said "gun gun gun" ) -- Also, they did not perform CPR after they both acknowledged he was unresponsive.

Badges should be taken, and prosecuted for manslaughter (if possible, second degree murder).

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Mar 23 2018 12:30am
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Mar 23 2018 12:30am
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i see, the REAL victims here are of course the poor police officers who might face some inconveniences


fleeing the police isn't a victimless crime. Failing to obey the police isn't a victimless crime. breaking windows isn't a victimless crime.
what sent him to jail in the first place wasn't victimless crimes: His two felony domestic abuse counts, his felony robbery charge, his possession of a firearm as a felon- not victimless crimes.
Maybe the possession charge he got booked on was 'victimless', but damn if he didn't rack up a lengthy rap sheet

There are a lot of victims of crimes here, and one perpetrator of crimes here, and two police officers who did their duty by engaging in one of the most dangerous things a cop can do to protect public safety, pursuing a known felon with gun charges on foot in the dark
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Mar 23 2018 12:32am
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fleeing the police isn't a victimless crime. Failing to obey the police isn't a victimless crime. breaking windows isn't a victimless crime.
what sent him to jail in the first place wasn't victimless crimes: His two felony domestic abuse counts, his felony robbery charge, his possession of a firearm as a felon- not victimless crimes.
Maybe the possession charge he got booked on was 'victimless', but damn if he didn't rack up a lengthy rap sheet

There are a lot of victims of crimes here, and one perpetrator of crimes here, and two police officers who did their duty by engaging in one of the most dangerous things a cop can do to protect public safety, pursuing a known felon with gun charges on foot in the dark


Unfortunately your first 3 sentences are irrelevant to the shooting, especially in whether deadly force was justified or not

Your last point, does have some weight however

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Mar 23 2018 12:33am
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Mar 23 2018 12:36am
Quote (tonerbond @ Mar 23 2018 07:49am)
>multiple felony history
>shoots at cops
>flees in residential neighborhood
>gets shot
>pardian’s vaginas pour 40 oz of blood


They didn't identify themselves as cops until after the shots were fired. That's a huge mistake.

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fleeing the police isn't a victimless crime. Failing to obey the police isn't a victimless crime. breaking windows isn't a victimless crime.
what sent him to jail in the first place wasn't victimless crimes: His two felony domestic abuse counts, his felony robbery charge, his possession of a firearm as a felon- not victimless crimes.
Maybe the possession charge he got booked on was 'victimless', but damn if he didn't rack up a lengthy rap sheet

There are a lot of victims of crimes here, and one perpetrator of crimes here, and two police officers who did their duty by engaging in one of the most dangerous things a cop can do to protect public safety, pursuing a known felon with gun charges on foot in the dark


Was he identified before he was shot though?
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Mar 23 2018 12:39am
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Unfortunately your first 4 sentences are irrelevant to the shooting, specially in whether deadly force was justified or not


All of that are relevant to the shootings. He had a long rap sheet of felonies and faced serious prison time, which undoubtably factored into his decision to run from police when he was in the middle of committing a crime spree, and led them on a foot chase in the dark, which is what created the circumstances of his own death. He had every opportunity to stop and comply with orders, he could have shown his hands, he could have not gone on a crime spree in the first place. He could definitely have decided not to turn and confront the police as they chased him with an object in his hands. Instead he forced the police into a situation in which they reasonably believe they were a split second from being ambushed and murdered.

There are incidents like Philando Castile and Justine Damond which are worth getting worked up about because it shows something that could happen to anyone
and then there are incidents like Michael Brown and this guy who deserved it
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Mar 23 2018 12:44am
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He could definitely have decided not to turn and confront the police as they chased him with an object in his hands. Instead he forced the police into a situation in which they reasonably believe they were a split second from being ambushed and murdered.


Did the officers know he was a felon with gun charges though? And your first 3 sentences are irrelevant to the actual shooting, because just because he is breaking the law doesn't inherently justify deadly force. For example, stealing candy and walking out from 7/11 doesn't mean you deserve to get shot. Same for walking around fiddling around with car handles acting like a noob.

However, if the officers who shot him KNEW he was a felon w/ gun charges then yes, it's reasonable to assume they were on high alert, and I will agree with you there

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