I am stuck using ibuypower to get this computer because I can't get financed anywhere else and I have only 500 cash...so bare with me and please don't tell me buying parts would be better because I know that but I don't have that option lol, also would sacrificing 8g ram and possibly even getting the cheapest thermal option be worth it to get better mobo, cpu, and gpu, if I can get the 8g ram and a better thermal two months from now? Or will I be taking a stupid risk?

These builds are only to heavy break night gaming and to make music with the push 2 midi controller and ableton live

Build #1-
Thermaltake versa h35 case
Asetek 550Lc water 120mm cpu cooler or deepcool gammaxx gt
I7 8600k
Gtx 1070 8g nivida
16g ram ddr4 3000
Gigabyte z370xp sli mobo
600watt 80+ bronze power supply
1tb 7200rpm 32mb sata drive
Hopefully atleast a 128-250gb m.2 ssd
Price $1,663.00

Build #2 -
Thermaltake versa n23 case
Same cooling options
I7 7700k
16g ram ddr4 3000
Asrock fatality z270 gaming k6 mobo
Gtx 1060 6g nivida gpu
Same power supply
Same hard drive option
Price $1,656.00

I believe some of the promotions I was planning on using to make this build is over but I still want to try to stick as close as possible again this is from Ibuypower and I have no other choice besides xoticpc.com but they seem more expensive.

This post was edited by eyeslow on Feb 21 2018 11:59am

Xoticpc has terrible customer service

Got a laptop from them forever ago and it ran okay but had problems that they never bothered to try to fix

8600k + 1070 vs 7700k +1060

I think it’s clear which is better

#1

You could show some will power and save the money up.

Case:Thermaltake Versa H35 w/ Window Gaming Case
Processor:Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor (6x 3.70GHz/12MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling:DEEPCOOL Gammaxx GT CPU Cooler - RGB
Memory:16 GB [8 GB X2] DDR4-3000 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory
Video Card:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 - 8GB (VR-Ready) - Single Card
Motherboard:GIGABYTE Z370XP SLI -- RGB Fusion, 3x PCIe x16, 2x USB 3.1 Gen2, 6x USB 3.1 Gen1 [Intel Optane Ready]
Primary Hard Drive:250 GB Samsung 860 EVO SSD -- Read: 550MB/s, Write: 520MB/s - Single Drive


What I went with, hoping it works well until next month when I get a 1tb 7200rpm 64mb cache baracuda

This post was edited by eyeslow on Feb 21 2018 10:03pm

What a laughably unbalanced build. Although it'll be pretty solid for you I'm sure.

What is so unbalanced about it? I'm going to get another hard drive by the time it gets in? Is the motherboard to good for the setup?

Well you can't do much about it because you're limited to IBuyPower. An 8700k + z370 + cooler is a lot of budget allocated to the cpu (and supporting it) that could be spent on a better video card with a still very serviceable cpu.

it's not necessarily unbalanced.. depends on his resolution

1080p it should be more than fine
or if he plays cpu intensive games at all.

That aside, it is always best to get a better cpu if you can, gpu is whatever, there's practically no limit to the amount of fidelity you can sacrifice to get more and more fps out of your gpu, either by lowering settings or even upscaling but if you hit a cpu related fps wall there is almost nothing you can do. You are stuck. A strong cpu is just a great investment, your next gpu upgrade in however many years will pair well with the 8700k. Gpu's and the technologies they support come and go and a high-end gpu is never worth it unless you want 4k max settings on current games only because it will probably lose tons of performance or even be unusable as a result of lack of proper support within 3-4 years even though it still has enough horsepower in theory.

gtx 780 ti is the saddest example of this, such a strong card in terms of raw number crunching even by today's standard and yet it performs like absolute ass in new games due to the arch being old and new games not being coded for it. Tesla gtx 2xx series had no dx11 support and were basically useless within 2 yrs of launch. CPU's on the other hand do not encounter this sort of fuckery in general so popping most of your budget on it is not a bad idea. It's not like the 1070 is a shit card anyway, so...

Oh yeah and upgrading your gpu is much simpler, just pop a new one in there but if you want a new cpu will probly need new mobo maybe even new memory. So get the best cpu you can now to better reap the benefits of your next upgrade.

One last thing to consider... and this is pretty important... the kind of games that require something like a 1080 ti i.e AAA games are almost all garbage, the current state of the game industry is an absolute wasteland. The most fun you'll have is from indie titles that would gain more from having big dick coffee lake cores.

This post was edited by DCSS on Feb 22 2018 04:48pm