Quote (yupitsmeh @ Feb 20 2018 10:25am)
bulldozer was new arch and where is that now?
bulldozer came out the gate with lower IPC than its predecessor, it was DOA and everyone knew it. I still remember people on forums in denial about how slow zambezi was compared to deneb, desperately clinging to cherrypicked multicore benchmarks vs sandy bridge in hopes that it would all turn out okay.
Despite how much of a dud it was, it did actually get substantially better compared to what it initially was. Even if Ryzen, which has already risen the bar substantially in its first iteration, can only see the same percentile gains over its revisions in terms of IPC it will be very successful. But since it is so successful, you can bet it will have a lot more invested in its refinement than what Bulldozer got from its first iteration up to Piledriver, and that's not even considering the clock speed it will doubtless gain.
I certainly dont think Ryzen and Bulldozer releases can be compared anyway, i was quite in awe at how Ryzen matched/exceeded broadwell-e clock for clock with equal cores. Bulldozer was disappointing from the start.
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Feb 20 2018 10:25am)
arguement is mute considering if you buy something older that 2 yrs you should be buying new motherboard
the point is you can keep putting new cpu's in a motherboard you bought years ago. Most motherboards last longer than 2 years in my experience, I mean my lga 775 rig logged nearly a decade of power-on hours with no issues aside from the usual hard drive/power supply deaths, before I ended up shelving it while still operational. This seems like an inteldrone viewpoint that new cpu's shouldn't fit in older motherboards and everyone should just dumpster them and give Intel more money because it doesn't have usb 3.1.
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Feb 20 2018 10:25am)
look at next set of ryzen cpus you most likely will need new mobo for new memory speeds considering if and how it makes a huge impact on performance along with other features
not sure if you remember am2 to am3+ days yes you got compatibility but lost out on faster memory compatibility and features such as sata speeds usb etc
I don't see how the fact that you won't get the latest version of SATA/USB or whatever makes it less future proof than an intel platform when you can stick a later gen, faster cpu into it which you can't do on intel. You can have older features + new cpu with AMD a few years down the line or older features + old cpu with Intel.
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Feb 20 2018 10:25am)
I dont believe in future proofing its ridiculous
via or someother company could release a modern cpu killer anyday unlikely yes but still there
there are few company startups looking at that possibility, could link articles if I have time to find them
the world could end tomorrow too, the point of life is you prepare for the foreseeable future as best you can, and right now intel is not the way to go for that.
This post was edited by DCSS on Feb 20 2018 09:42am