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Jan 20 2018 04:59am
american politics are such a shitshow, this is not a situation to mess around with and that goes for both parties

Quote (JohnMiller92 @ 20 Jan 2018 07:04)


whats so funny about that?
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Quote (ampoo @ Jan 20 2018 12:59pm)
american politics are such a shitshow, this is not a situation to mess around with and that goes for both parties



whats so funny about that?


My guess is that it's funny because it blames one party entirely for the inability of two parties to reach consensus.
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Quote (Goomshill @ 20 Jan 2018 06:57)
:banana:

In the blue corner, weighing in at 49 senators, the DREAM TEAM:

https://i.imgur.com/ExXCryg.jpg

and in the red corner, weighing in at 51 senators, the house, a tie breaker VP and the president, the WALL CABAL:

https://i.imgur.com/1OuliEP.jpg


:lol:
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Quote (Leevee @ 20 Jan 2018 12:12)
My guess is that it's funny because it blames one party entirely for the inability of two parties to reach consensus.


this is true of course, but as pointed out in that statement, the status of illegals per definition can not be negotiated and there is no need for a consensus on that
it should never be a discussion to begin with
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Jan 20 2018 05:35am
Quote (ampoo @ Jan 20 2018 04:59am)
whats so funny about that?


click on the link:
http://obstructionistlosers.com/
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Jan 20 2018 05:38am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 20 2018 01:35pm)


As I feared. The joke was actually the part that would make anyone up to 14 years old go "heuheu looool" and would make anyone above that age place their palms on their faces.

Thanks for clarifying.
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Jan 20 2018 05:42am
Quote (Leevee @ 20 Jan 2018 10:38)
I have to say, weird as this system may be, I think it is a great way to force politicians to take responsibility. In Belgium -- where we went over a year without a government or a proper budget plan -- mandates were just taken by unelected people, politicians were making decisions that they weren't authorized for, and the debt kept stacking up due to the missing budget plan. It is the most undemocratic thing you could think of, and none of the politicians gave a shit about it.

The shutdown's effects are way more direct and immediate, and it puts politicians in their place. You can't reach consensus about a budget? Okay, no budget means no money. Enjoy watching how the entire country suffers billions in losses because of your inability to reach agreement.


I mean it works while you have a government that cares about those losses more than their pride. Unfortunately we now have a spoilt, egotistical baby as PotUS so who knows how long it could go on for before he agrees to compromise.
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Quote (Scaly @ Jan 20 2018 01:42pm)
I mean it works while you have a government that cares about those losses more than their pride. Unfortunately we now have a spoilt, egotistical baby as PotUS so who knows how long it could go on for before he agrees to compromise.


Regardless of your president's incompetence, the shutdown will still put pressure on him, and the shutdown safeguards democracy. I like it.
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Quote (Leevee @ 20 Jan 2018 11:46)
Regardless of your president's incompetence, the shutdown will still put pressure on him, and the shutdown safeguards democracy. I like it.


I agree in part
I just think this shutdown will be far more damaging than 2013's because this president is a petulant child and will refuse to move an inch until it becomes clear that the shutdown is more damaging to his perceived reputation than his compromising on an issue he has declared himself unmovable upon.

I highly doubt this will be a 'fake' weekend shutdown and anticipate genuine economic damage.

This post was edited by Scaly on Jan 20 2018 07:01am
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