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Nov 23 2017 02:18am
Quote (DCSS @ 23 Nov 2017 04:06)
my shit works fine, i don't want an update. my shit works fine, i don't want an update.
you cant make it work more fine

so here's my message to everything with automatic updates that can't be opted out of entirely if at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57yMKDJtJ70


Some of the updates are security patches, so hackers can't steal your data, using your device for DDOS or spamming, etc.
Sure, it is annoying as hell, but still. :)
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Quote (Thomas Cross @ Nov 23 2017 04:18am)
Some of the updates are security patches, so hackers can't steal your data, using your device for DDOS or spamming, etc.
Sure, it is annoying as hell, but still. :)


same justification for taking away my civil liberties
na

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Quote (DCSS @ 23 Nov 2017 10:20)
same justification for taking away my civil liberties
na


Sure, you can leave your devices wide open for hackers, but if they turn it into a zombie DDOS machine, and they don't even care for using a proxy, then the attacked site or company might sue you...
If you leave your flat wide open, and hobos start partying there, then they start a fire there on purpose/or accidently and the whole building burns out, then it is clearly your fault too... It doesn't matter if you have the right to invite guests over... :) :D
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Thanks for the update
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This guy leave blue tooth and gos on 24/7
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Quote (Thomas Cross @ Nov 23 2017 05:53am)
Sure, you can leave your devices wide open for hackers, but if they turn it into a zombie DDOS machine, and they don't even care for using a proxy, then the attacked site or company might sue you...
If you leave your flat wide open, and hobos start partying there, then they start a fire there on purpose/or accidently and the whole building burns out, then it is clearly your fault too... It doesn't matter if you have the right to invite guests over... :) :D


some card_sultan tier doomsday stuff here, quite funny to read. i've been preventing everything that i can from auto updating for over a decade and my machine has never been compromised and never will because i understand how to monitor and care for a machine and don't need to be nanny'd.

back on topic, a nice example of the consequences of auto update culture right here in our own forum:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77477266&

This post was edited by DCSS on Nov 23 2017 05:17am
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Quote (DCSS @ 23 Nov 2017 13:10)
some card_sultan tier doomsday stuff here, quite funny to read. i've been preventing everything that i can from auto updating for over a decade and my machine has never been compromised and never will because i understand how to monitor and care for a machine and don't need to be nanny'd.

back on topic, a nice example of the consequences of auto update culture right here in our own forum:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77477266&


Okay then :)

Of course I was talking about antivirus and OS updates, not the daily 12+ Acrobat reader updates :D
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Quote (Thomas Cross @ Nov 23 2017 08:49am)
Okay then :)

Of course I was talking about antivirus and OS updates, not the daily 12+ Acrobat reader updates :D


updates can actually create vulnerabilities.. remember the CCleaner fiasco back in September? That's an extreme example where the malware was actually in the new version but still relevant. Driver updates have also bricked ssd's from samsung and gpu's in the past, no reason to fix something that isn't broken. Any time you're downloading an update, or anything in fact, even if it's Acrobat Reader (people still use that?) you're opening a window to a possible threat, so it should be done sparingly, not all the time.

and antiviruses are for moms and grandparents... not so relevant to me or most people who have common sense, and only win10 needs auto updates because it's full of intentional holes to leak data to microsoft, constantly spewing your information out into the internet, of course microsoft has to keep moving the holes so no one else uses them. Best thing is to just not use windows 10. I only update my 7 via individual kb's as needed, i.e if an application requires an entrypoint i don't have, I can find the patch that implemented it and install it on its own.

Don't use Spywindows 10 and you will never need autoupdates

secure your system
don't trust anyone else to.

This post was edited by DCSS on Nov 23 2017 07:27am
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Nov 23 2017 07:33am
same
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Quote (DCSS @ 23 Nov 2017 15:18)
updates can actually create vulnerabilities.. remember the CCleaner fiasco back in September? That's an extreme example where the malware was actually in the new version but still relevant. Driver updates have also bricked ssd's from samsung and gpu's in the past, no reason to fix something that isn't broken. Any time you're downloading an update, or anything in fact, even if it's Acrobat Reader (people still use that?) you're opening a window to a possible threat, so it should be done sparingly, not all the time.

and antiviruses are for moms and grandparents... not so relevant to me or most people who have common sense, and only win10 needs auto updates because it's full of intentional holes to leak data to microsoft, constantly spewing your information out into the internet, of course microsoft has to keep moving the holes so no one else uses them. Best thing is to just not use windows 10. I only update my 7 via individual kb's as needed, i.e if an application requires an entrypoint i don't have, I can find the patch that implemented it and install it on its own.

Don't use Spywindows 10 and you will never need autoupdates

secure your system
don't trust anyone else to.


Don't worry, I don't use Spydows10, and never will :D
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