>says all kinds of shitty things to me and others for months and years on end
>literally grieving and defending particularly disgusting murderers
>blames it on US capitalism and claims it does nothing for the poor

>>gets triggered when shots and jokes come flying back on the subject because they hit too close to home.

..nah you know what? i agree that wasnt very nice and i probably wouldn't be too happy if i was in your shoes either.
ill try not to joke about that in the future now that i know.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Nov 20 2017 09:22pm

e/ actually I will pm cambo.

Don't feel like discussing this shit in the open.

This post was edited by Scaly on Nov 20 2017 10:28pm

Too late . As long as you acknowledge your personal issues and you're willing to make the necessary steps to arrange that , you're on the right path.

Well, in this case since someone has actually been to an anxiety group it's not fake at all deserves our sympathy.

However, when using it as a point to defend Charles Manson, etc might seem a bit odd. But it could be a cry for help as maybe that person feels relatable to Charles, in the sense the mental help system is not working for them. If that makes sense.

Which is what I hope it is, if not.. then I'm not a psychiatrist but something could be stirring up there that could be bad

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Nov 20 2017 11:14pm

kek

No group. One on one therapy.
I was just using Manson's story to illuminate the inadequacies of the US mental health system and attitudes toward mental illness.Yes the British system is nowhere near as good as it needs to be but it'd be tough to connect Manson's cult to the NHS... And we don't have mass murders every week like the US.

No cry for help either. I'm getting the best help available and have a wonderfully supportive and loving partner. No need for sympathy.

Not for me anyway... For the hundreds of thousands who suffer similarly and worse without the luxury of wealthy parents and supportive partners and friends however - They need more than sympathy. They need a healthcare system that treats them quickly and appropriately and a social care system that isn't buckling under the financial cuts that keep being lumped one atop the other that can provide them with housing, care and support instead of them ending up homeless, addicted, imprisoned and/or out of hope. They need a government that cares about the welfare of it's most vulnerable citizens and not one that seeks to plunder the few resources available to them because they are an easy target. After all, what would a protest march by a group of agorophobes look like? How are paranoid schizophrenics going to organise a lobby? If you want more money so you can keep giving the rich their tax breaks and the banks their bailouts then who better to take it from than the people who are least likely to make a fuss?

That's why we need protected socialist institutions within our capitalist societies. Because capitalism has no morality to it.

Turned into a rather lengthy diatribe. My apologies for the rant.

This post was edited by Scaly on Nov 21 2017 12:54am

Scaly saw a dead body and got raped by kids at his orphanage, not a failure of healthcare but a breakdown in marriage and social decay

I understand what you're saying, but I think you're preaching to the choir here.

This IS a capitalist society. If folks in a capitalist society don't like it, they can move, to...England, let's say.
As for Charles Manson, even a socialist society couldn't deal with him. You have to understand, that man was so far off the deep end, he WAS a danger to those around him.

Not because of his views on govt., or his views on where the money goes. But because of the ways he dealt with those views.
In ANY structured civilization, he would be viewed this way, even a socialist one.

We could debate this ...for years, but I feel sure that eventually, I could convince even you of the need to just separate Charles Manson from all society...even the rest of the prison society.
It may have been more humane to just put him to death in say a gas chamber. But no amount of therapy was gonna fix this guy.

Hell, even the CIA couldn't find a use for him. That by itself should tell you something.

for your sake scaly, i do hope this is just a troll