Expect his matri has +2ama (more passives,plague dmg) +2java (more plague dmg) > your 0 skill stygian

9 left 8.5 right 10 pilum

Most zons are probably going to have enough dex to do a little bit of damage there and max block on something like Phoenix Shield for burst damage and have SS on switch. I think an FRW craft would be far superior. At any rate this all depends on the zvz or zva and bow type. But imo GMB is probably going to be the weapon of choice for burst damage in most instances thus making catseye/HL required.

you need 232 dex for max block with SS on zva, so you do need to put stats in dex in any gear setup and a lot more if you're going to use phoenix mon, but really why would you do that you need the DR% from SS when going vs physical chars and vs non phys chars you don't even need icb so no use going for mb with phoenix shield. if you're going for frw, I'd take cat's eye over a craft every time.

Just options

right, 2000 more damage or 1% dodge chance and useless psn damage. Sorry, I don't see how skills are better cause they really aren't. Most overrated stat on zva javs ever.

2000 more damage where in your dreams?

Because builds vary as do the opponents and things are more weak against massive burst damage you may opt for Phoenix's boost in damage over SS but you'll still want max block to help against jumps and other irritating things ;3. All things considered you want a decent amount of dex for damage not just pure vita.



Plague is an awesome skill if utilized properly with enough skill points. I'd of loved to have such javs with +2 amazon ;p +2 amazon also helps in saving points that can be placed in other skills, plague being an example of this but also things like multi, penetrate, and Valkyrie ( if telezon )



No doubt he is referencing maximum damage output of the jav. PvP penalties aside.

Stygian Pilum
LB 1820-6510
LF 2441-8572
Jab 1822-7594

Matriarchal Javelin
LB 2446-5184
LF 3275-6763
Jab 2916-5837

I assume you made the comparsion in SP with full perf setup and full dex?
Because ~250dex on your zon these stats are impossible (my zon had these javelin with perf in every slot item and still 6k max LF wasnt possible)

So Fury:
`stygian pilum avg ~5506,5
`matri avg ~ 5019

Thats 505,6 more avg (mainly because stygian befenit the extra %ed you gain from dex/str compared to matri)
That / pvp penalty = far far away from 2.000 more damage

I never mentioned how much dex the specified zon had for those statistics. Oh you want a comparison of 250dex base or 250 dex total....? ;p

( 250 dex base , 365 dex cap )
Stygian Pilum
LB 1517-5444
LF 2037-7151
Jab 1522-6339

Matriarchal Javelin
LB 2134-4541
LF 2859-5906
Jab 2549-5105

( 250 dex cap )
Stygian Pilum
LB 1379-4959
LF 1853-6504
Jab 1385-5768

Matriarchal Javelin
LB 1993-4251
LF 2671-5519
Jab 2383-4774

PS: Also I have no idea why you bolded two sets of skills and crossed out the other. It is obvious those statistics were from glass cannon hybrid zon lol. Unless you still think those are impossible stats ;p I'd gladly carry you through the obvious.

This post was edited by Mewi on Nov 4 2017 01:49pm

Even if we assume you did your math right, 500 more avg damage is 11.4% more overall avg damage. Not only that, these matris aren't perfect damage, mine are much closer to it, so the margin is probably more like 15%. I'll take 15% more damage over 200psn damage + 1% dodge chance any day of the week. And with my zva on bnet I was doing a little over 9k physical damage top end on with the stygians. I think I have pics somewhere too, and she wasn't dex, she had max block and that's it.

Mewi gets it, few do. Stick to the cookie cutter builds in the stickies if you want, your loss.
Agreed plague jav is good, but it's mostly for es sorcs and to take down a 1k life/6k es sorc you won't need many points in plague jav.
Also, he crossed out some skills because they can't spawn on the stygians, class specific item only.

This post was edited by laztheripper on Nov 4 2017 04:46pm