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Jun 23 2018 12:03am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 23 2018 12:30am)
https://www.politico.eu/article/poll-three-quarters-of-brits-back-dramatic-fall-in-immigration/



open borders are less and less capable of finding the support from a majority of voters.


It's hardly a government policy. They set the annual net migration 'target' of less than 100,000 a year without doing anything to get there. We were averaging over 300,000 a year until Brexit, and since it's dropped to around half of that.

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Jun 23 2018 04:37am
breaking: Italy punished by God
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Jun 23 2018 05:30am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 23 Jun 2018 02:03)
we needed the populists to stop the merkels and junckers of the world. without voter backlash, we'd still have the 10k+ immigrants per day that we had during Q4/2015.


"populist" is just a leftist buzzword for political opinions they dont agree with, what the mainstream media labels as populist is an attempt to bring things back to normal
macron and merkel ("if the euro fails, europa will fail") are textbook populists yet the press would never call them that
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Jun 23 2018 08:10am
Not exactly the EU but close enough.
http://www.hdp.org.tr/en/english/news/press-coverage/demirtas-authoritarian-regimes-eventually-collapse-sometimes-it-happens-quickly-sometime-it-takes-longer/12205

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The article by our Presidential candidate Selahattin Demirtaş, published in The Guardian:

I write these lines to you from a maximum-security Turkish jail

But I was arrested 20 months ago when I was a member of parliament and co-chair of the HDP - the People’s Democratic party, and third largest in the Turkish parliament – which represents the will of 6 million voters. It was a year after my arrest before I was finally seen by a judge. According to the indictments served on me, I am charged with criminal offences carrying a combined sentence of 183 years.

Before becoming a parliamentarian, I visited county prisons as a human rights advocate to report violations of prisoners’ rights. However, seeing the prison walls as a lawyer and being held as a political hostage behind them is a very different experience. Over the last 20 months I have never lost my faith in democratic opposition in Turkey. Nelson Mandela wrote in his autobiography about what it meant to be a political prisoner: “The prison itself is a great education for the need for patience and perseverance. Above all, it is a test of faith/stability for people.“ Now I’m going through the training and stability test just like tens of thousands of others now in Turkey’s prisons, just for exercising the right to express an opinion and to organise.

I am now standing as one of six candidates for the Turkish presidency in tomorrow’s elections, conducting my campaign directly from my prison cell. That decision stems from the belief that the fight against the authoritarian regime operated by the president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, is the only way to restore peace and democracy in Turkey. I am of course aware of the limits of delivering messages to the outside through lawyers, the only means available to me. Yet, despite these limits, and a government that controls 90% of the mainstream media, the people, especially young people and women, are campaigning energetically on my behalf.




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Jun 23 2018 01:57pm
Quote (ampoo @ Jun 22 2018 07:37pm)
really missing you guys :(
but there is always next time



what a team, damn :drool:


You lads got away with murder today Jesus Christ. Gotta love Toni though.
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Jun 24 2018 05:52am
Quote (balrog66 @ 23 Jun 2018 21:57)
You lads got away with murder today Jesus Christ. Gotta love Toni though.


the world champs are back B)

too close ffs
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Quote (dro94 @ 25 Jun 2018 22:59)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEaEBmpu-4o


This guy is awesome. Love his rants, they're both funny and spot on.
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Jun 26 2018 03:10pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Jun 26 2018 02:02pm)
This guy is awesome. Love his rants, they're both funny and spot on.


Yeah, the guy behind the character is a consistent and principled liberal who is true to his beliefs, regardless of whether it pisses off Tories or the Corbyn cultists.

I'm more impressed that you can understand the rants. I would have thought he'd be almost as hard to decipher as Jamie Carragher.
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Quote (zarkadon @ 26 Jun 2018 14:02)
This guy is awesome. Love his rants, they're both funny and spot on.


agreed, he makes some good points. it's just a bit unfortunate that the premise of this rant is a bit of a strawman. no one actually claimed that every single brexiteer was stupid or ill informed, nor that you'd have to know every detail of the EU's inner workings to not be considered ignorant. it is a valid concern that so many people looked up the most basic questions about the EU after the referendum - and the false equivalence concerning the honesty and promises / predictions of both sides also doesn't do him any favours considering there is plenty of legitimate criticism concerning the issue. still quite amusing though...
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