Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 23 2017 08:52am)
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You know what "red is blue" is representative of no need to be daft.
The dynamics of marriage, once again, is not what's being argued here. At the end of the day marriage was still between the opposite sexes. Rome married heterosexually & diddled boys before Christianity showed up on the scene. Why didn't they marry same sex even if it was culturally accept to have sexual relationships with them? Can you explain that? Is it maybe because marriage was defined in a certain way?
Ancient civilizations that preceded those ones also practiced marriage. You call my understanding ahistoric yet i can point to every culture and it follows my definition.
Rome and Greece were monogamous in marriage, which was an uncommon practice in that time. The rest of the West that developed from Greece and Rome was also predominately monogamous. This is European history. We have a lot of people of European descent in America saying that this short history of this one tradition is the objective truth about this tradition, even though Europe isn't the whole world and even in Europe now there are places where gay people can get married, so this appeal to tradition isn't really something that has legs anyway...because it is still a European tradition, marriage is traditional, and it has expanded to include more people now. You can talk about Red, Blue, and Green/Yellow all you want but that is off topic.
I don't see why you are being so shitty about gay people emulating you. If you think you're culture is right and best, and moral, you should be thrilled that it is expanding to include other people or that people are choosing through their own free will to become more like you, since you appear to believe that being different from you is bad. But even with them becoming more like you, you are still being shitty about it. I just don't understand. I feel like you're systemically unhappy and that no matter what happens you will be unhappy, because you are fundamentally at war with reality, the set of circumstances that is constantly everchanging, which you seem to want to hold still or stay the same.
Faust was about this, the Goethe version. Liberals didn't change all this....the industrial revolution and the constant changing and advancing of the means of production have caused this. Traditional living was sacrificed for capitalism, yet you try to embrace these diametrically opposing forces.
You know that this whole gay rights thing wouldn't have gotten this far if it hadn't undergone commodification. Capitalism has given it a platform, its own sections in book stores, its own news papers, its own television shows, its own movies, lol. I think this is where a lot of your cognitive and social dissonance is coming from. My advice is just to let go. People are going to live how they will and most differences between people are just cultural. I used to have an idea of how things should be....but now that I meet so many people I more feel like people are weird and there's a lid for every pot out there.