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Sep 19 2017 06:57pm
Quote (joncomgree @ Sep 19 2017 08:53pm)
overall damage, ult cooldown, and ult length nerfs make him weaker and his late game isn't too much to brag about anymore when you cannot get to the late game.

In my personal opinion its just his damage isn't enough to justify bringing to the table against mid laners like ahri, syndra, and talon who can take him out to lunch and then fuck him with 1 combo. I haven't seen an Azir 100-0 anyone unless its with his 150 second cooldown ult since the nerfs, but that isn't until like 28 minutes


Syndra's ult definitely needs a nerf. Dumb champ is way too rewarding. I play a lot of syndra and it's just way too easy to carry
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Sep 19 2017 07:44pm
Quote (Whalefood @ Sep 19 2017 05:47pm)
O it was Lissandra


She was always meant as a mid laner though

This post was edited by FroggyG on Sep 19 2017 07:46pm
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Sep 19 2017 08:50pm
Quote (Konvicted08 @ Sep 19 2017 08:57pm)
Syndra's ult definitely needs a nerf. Dumb champ is way too rewarding. I play a lot of syndra and it's just way too easy to carry


When syndra ult can do 1260 dmg with 0 ap. lul
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Sep 19 2017 09:10pm
Kindred?

Also, Azir major nerfs ranged from his E(used to CC, i think it was a knock up).

His W used to be able to deal damage to towers.

His Q used to have a bigger range.

His R used to have a non-existant cd and range(width of wall) nerf.

Wait, his shield also used to give a shield.

This post was edited by DemonTheLegend on Sep 19 2017 09:11pm
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Sep 19 2017 09:33pm
Quote (DemonTheLegend @ Sep 19 2017 10:10pm)
Kindred?

Also, Azir major nerfs ranged from his E(used to CC, i think it was a knock up).

His W used to be able to deal damage to towers.

His Q used to have a bigger range.

His R used to have a non-existant cd and range(width of wall) nerf.

Wait, his shield also used to give a shield.


His e was indeed a knock up at first.
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Sep 20 2017 11:33am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Sep 19 2017 10:33pm)
His e was indeed a knock up at first.


Quote (DemonTheLegend @ Sep 19 2017 10:10pm)
Kindred?

Also, Azir major nerfs ranged from his E(used to CC, i think it was a knock up).

His W used to be able to deal damage to towers.

His Q used to have a bigger range.

His R used to have a non-existant cd and range(width of wall) nerf.

Wait, his shield also used to give a shield.


i just realized the last sentence i wrote. his E used to give a shield!!! xD
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Sep 20 2017 02:37pm
Quote (yostraydog @ Sep 19 2017 03:52pm)
What nerfs actually happened to azir that make him bad? I suck on him but I can clearly see why someone like faker could get on the current azir and utilize all the craziness he has the ability to do. What did he have before that made him so OP that he doesn't have now that makes him close to a 0% pick?


It was the removal of his e shield, knockup, and passive change making cdr convert to attack speed. This led to a weak early game because no knockup to initiate early, now all of his trades are through his autos. They nerfed q damage a bit but that wasn't a big deal. Currently he's like playing an adc in the mid lane but with even less dps... He's garbage until late game and loses most trades until nashors.

And the reason they removed his shield and knockup is valid... He was op late game. Now he's still strong late but is like the kog maw of the mid lane because he's so shit early with only autos and to trade with while they deal barely more than regular autos and still have poor auto timer coding.
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Sep 21 2017 09:04am
Quote (DemonTheLegend @ Sep 20 2017 12:33pm)
i just realized the last sentence i wrote. his E used to give a shield!!! xD


Oh damn they took away his shield too? Fucking hell.
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Sep 21 2017 12:25pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Sep 21 2017 11:04am)
Oh damn they took away his shield too? Fucking hell.



no they removed the hp scaling from the shield
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