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Sep 18 2017 08:13am
Seems there's an argument within trumps legal team with some folks saying they ought to release anything and everything to get the investigation over with quickly confident that there is no wrongdoings by trump and other folks who insist otherwise. I'm curious what those documents in the safe are all about ^_^

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/us/politics/trump-lawyers-white-house-russia-mcgahn-ty-cobb.html?mcubz=3
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President Trump’s legal team is wrestling with how much to cooperate with the special counsel looking into Russian election interference, an internal debate that led to an angry confrontation last week between two White House lawyers and that could shape the course of the investigation.

At the heart of the clash is an issue that has challenged multiple presidents during high-stakes Washington investigations: how to handle the demands of investigators without surrendering the institutional prerogatives of the office of the presidency. Similar conflicts during the Watergate and Monica S. Lewinsky scandals resulted in court rulings that limited a president’s right to confidentiality.

The debate in Mr. Trump’s West Wing has pitted Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, against Ty Cobb, a lawyer brought in to manage the response to the investigation. Mr. Cobb has argued for turning over as many of the emails and documents requested by the special counsel as possible in hopes of quickly ending the investigation — or at least its focus on Mr. Trump.

Mr. McGahn supports cooperation, but has expressed worry about setting a precedent that would weaken the White House long after Mr. Trump’s tenure is over. He is described as particularly concerned about whether the president will invoke executive or attorney-client privilege to limit how forthcoming Mr. McGahn could be if he himself is interviewed by the special counsel as requested.

The friction escalated in recent days after Mr. Cobb was overheard by a reporter for The New York Times discussing the dispute during a lunchtime conversation at a popular Washington steakhouse. Mr. Cobb was heard talking about a White House lawyer he deemed “a McGahn spy” and saying Mr. McGahn had “a couple documents locked in a safe” that he seemed to suggest he wanted access to. He also mentioned a colleague whom he blamed for “some of these earlier leaks,” and who he said “tried to push Jared out,” meaning Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, who has been a previous source of dispute for the legal team.


personally i err on the side that would make for a better movie so i like the trump/russia idea

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 18 2017 08:13am
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Sep 18 2017 08:54am
Trump's legal team is in an odd position because they know Trump didn't do anything illegal with Russia / the election, but they know he did plenty of illegal or at least grey area tax evasion
so the willingness to cooperate comes down to their confidence in the commission. And even if Mueller is credible, they know the entire thing is a political witch hunt and know the democrats are angling for Trump's taxes for this very reason.

something of a prisoner's dillema variant
You know you are innocent. If the investigator is honest, you get an advantage from being honest yourself, but if he's crooked, you get a huge disadvantage from being honest
But if the investigator is honest, he knows that if you were guilty you'd get a big advantage from not being honest, but if you were innocent it would be advantageous to be honest

Establishing the trust necessary to make that kind of leap of faith is of course utterly impossible in this political climate not if Kenneth Starr could thrive in the relative civil times when Newt Gingrich was the closest thing to hysteria,
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Sep 18 2017 08:57am
Collusion Confirmed because Nazi's and CNN.
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Sep 18 2017 09:05am
Quote (djman72 @ Sep 18 2017 06:57am)
Collusion Confirmed because Nazi's and CNN.


..and don't forget.. boobs!

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Sep 18 2017 09:09am
Quote (JohnMiller92 @ Sep 18 2017 07:05am)
..and don't forget.. boobs!



We didnt have boobs until jews were gassed
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Sep 18 2017 09:11am
Quote (tonerbond @ Sep 18 2017 10:09am)
We didnt have boobs until jews were gassed


or hurricanes.
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Sep 21 2017 06:58am
Quote (djman72 @ 18 Sep 2017 16:57)
Collusion Confirmed because Nazi's and CNN.


...chuckled :D
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Sep 21 2017 07:11am
Quote (Thomas Cross @ Sep 21 2017 07:58am)
...cuckold :D


fix'd
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