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Sep 16 2017 06:12am
the CA state legislature has gone completely off the rails in full blown partisan provocation mode, with three separate attempts to push the dial to 11/10:

  • Passing a resolution urging (federal) congress to 'immmediately censure President Trump' 'for his racist and bigoted behavior' over Charlottesville
  • Passing a bill to Brown that would move the CA primaries (ALL primaries in the state, not just presidential) up to be one of the first in the nation, which would break both DNC & GOP party rules, stripping CA of all its delegates
  • Passing a bill to Brown that would require presidential candidates to release their tax returns to be listed on the state ballots, thereby removing Donald Trump from the 2020 ballots


The last one is by far the most damning, dangerous and unprecedented. There could be nothing more fundamentally undemocratic than trying to remove an opposing candidate from the ballots, and california is on its way to sparking a constitutional crisis and the total breakdown of democracy. First, its worth pointing out the blaring hypocrisy that on the same week they passed a measure moving all state and federal primaries up, they crafted the tax return bill to only affect the presidential election, not their own state elections, so it doesn't apply to the same lawmakers voting on it- a republican senator forced them to vote down an amendment that would make it do just that. And Brown himself didn't release his tax returns in his last 2 elections either, probably none of the lawmakers for that matter. But opening this can of worms goes well beyond just hypocrisy, its the pandora's box of a crisis if this actually gets signed into law, because then it forces both a showdown in the courts as well as provoke retaliation from the republicans. And the republican trifectas, particularly those in swing states, would have a joyous time crafting their own extortionate criteria based on the eventual democratic candidate, or just pass measures to categorically exclude them. If in 2020 Trump isn't on the CA ballot and no democrats are on the Wisconsin, Florida, New Hampshire or Virginia ballots, that would delegitimize the entire election and send us hurtling into societal collapse, wailing and gnashing of teeth, dogs and cats living together, etc.
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Sep 16 2017 06:16am
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Sep 16 2017 06:26am
I'm surprised you didn't get warn from the topic name. I'm in full agreement though. Splitting Cali up into four states is the only answer if you ask me.

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Sep 16 2017 06:40am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 16 2017 06:26am)
I'm surprised you didn't get warn from the topic name. I'm in full agreement though. Splitting Cali up into four states is the only answer if you ask me.


I liked the idea where california and/or texas get split up and puerto rico and/or guam get statehood at the same time, aiming to balance out the partisan gains in the senate, though house is another matter.
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Sep 16 2017 07:45am
I like the tax return thing. No way a president should be able to dodge that.

I'm pretty sure states have a right to do this as well. Lets see whar the courts think.

The tax thing is good. Good idea to close that door

California is fine.

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 16 2017 07:47am
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Sep 16 2017 08:01am


I think California has been sampling a bit too much of it's own product. :lol:
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I think California has been sampling a bit too much of it's own product. :lol:


If they were a country their GDP would be 2 or 3 in the world....

....meanwhile how are most red states doing?

Why should the successful emulate losers?

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Sep 16 2017 08:16am
Why are trumpets so threatened by his tax returns if he hasn't done anything wrong
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Why are trumpets so threatened by his tax returns if he hasn't done anything wrong


They voted for him because they are scared people. Kind of a circular thing. The fear is typically xenophobia. Its on constant display. Theyve gotten away from the psychosexual cuck stuff though a healthy thing.

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