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Mar 15 2018 04:32pm
yep. EL is atlético's to lose... i honestly don't even see arsenal in the final (even though it would make for a very attractive one from a neutral perspective) if they draw OM or even Lazio.
my bet is OM - Atlético (if they don't meet earlier)...
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Mar 15 2018 05:36pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 15 Mar 2018 23:16)
If we just look at the numbers, the doping may not be on the same level as City, Chelsea or PSG for example, but if we look at it ina proportionate manner... Leipzig was a what, 5th or 6th division team? With zero fanbase whatsoever.

I think it's worse than the other clubs I listed, which despite being disgustingly doped and I despise them for it, at least had a history behind them and were all topflight teams.

e: Leipzig also represents all this business branding bushit thing... it's a club made to advertise Red Bull, not a real football club


what you say is correct, but i would like to add that football has a long history and fanbase in leipzig, especially in the eastern german state back then
i dont need to tell you how much of a disadvantage teams from the east still have, so i am happy that they can enjoy bundesliga football
the project in leipzig comes with reasonable investment and is extremely professional

i always find it weird that people are so hard on that club, while nobody talks about billionaire kühne who has kept hamburg alive for many years by now

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Mar 15 2018 06:24pm
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what you say is correct, but i would like to add that football has a long history and fanbase in leipzig, especially in the eastern german state back then
i dont need to tell you how much of a disadvantage teams from the east still have, so i am happy that they can enjoy bundesliga football
the project in leipzig comes with reasonable investment and is extremely professional

i always find it weird that people are so hard on that club, while nobody talks about billionaire kühne who has kept hamburg alive for many years by now


Yes, they have a long history of football... in Lokomotiv Leipzig. That is a proper club and not this Red Bull crap.

I agree it would be nice to see more eastern clubs see top level football, like Dynamo Dresden, Cottbus, etc back in the day. But this is not the right way imo...
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Mar 16 2018 06:13am
RB Leipzig - Olympique Marseille
Atletico Madrid - Sporting Lissabon
Arsenal - CSKA Moscow
Lazio Rom - RB Salzburg

This post was edited by SwaYy on Mar 16 2018 06:13am
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Mar 16 2018 07:08am
Quote (zarkadon @ 15 Mar 2018 23:16)
If we just look at the numbers, the doping may not be on the same level as City, Chelsea or PSG for example, but if we look at it ina proportionate manner... Leipzig was a what, 5th or 6th division team? With zero fanbase whatsoever.

I think it's worse than the other clubs I listed, which despite being disgustingly doped and I despise them for it, at least had a history behind them and were all topflight teams.

e: Leipzig also represents all this business branding bushit thing... it's a club made to advertise Red Bull, not a real football club


PSG is doped for Qatar to show how big and strong they are, it's just as worse, or even worse than Leipzig imo
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PSG is doped for Qatar to show how big and strong they are, it's just as worse, or even worse than Leipzig imo


PSG is more of a toy than billboard imo. Not to mention that the club already existed, with an established history and fanbase, and wasn't created from scratch just to promote a brand.
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Mar 17 2018 02:12pm
Quote (SwaYy @ Mar 16 2018 02:13pm)
RB Leipzig - Olympique Marseille
Atletico Madrid - Sporting Lissabon
Arsenal - CSKA Moscow
Lazio Rom - RB Salzburg


Think OM will pass, Atletico no doubt, the gunners and Salzburg might be the surprise

Anyway Atletico will raise up the trophy ;)
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Apr 13 2018 04:12am
Arsenal-Atlético
OM-RB Salzburg

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Apr 13 2018 04:25am
Aww, was hopeing for Salzburg vs Arsenal or Atlético.

Owell, I might go to the 2nd leg at home.
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Apr 13 2018 04:36am
arsenal atleti :drool:
really nice game
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