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Dragon_Reborn
#1 Aug 8 2017 12:31pm
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I don't want to learn (and haven't as of yet) algortighms, since the fun part is figuring it out and understanding how it works.

I picked up a 5x5 some days ago, but I'm stuck at the last part.

I need help flipping the orientation (not the spot) of two of the middle outer edges, and how to do that using logic.

If anyone knows how to do it that'd be great (no algorthims!).

The thing I want to be able to do (and understand how it works) is flipping the edges as in nr 1. in this picture:




How I solve it so far is:

1. solve centers.
2. solve half of bottom (3 edges and 2 corners)
3. solve half of middle layer (2 edges)
4. solve last bottom edge + 1 bottom corner + 1 middle layer edge (2 edges and 1 corner)
5. solve middle edges + corners, while getting as many of the outer middle edges in proper orientation and place (last of the 5 edges and 5 corners)
6. swap any remaining middle outer edges to proper place
7. flip orientation of last middle outer edges (THIS IS WHERE I'M STUCK. MY CUBE LOOKS LIKE FIGURE 1 ABOVE - REST SOLVED)

Also, this was a step up from a 3x3, allthough that took my a while to.
Dragon_Reborn
#2 Aug 8 2017 02:48pm
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I finally managed to solve it, but my brain feels pretty overloaded!

Instead of solving the cube in sections like above, I solved the edges (1x3) in steps.
Through a lot of thinking i found another (much easier way!) to swap 3 edge pieces. And solving those straight after solving center, i don't have to worry about messing up the rest of the cube, since only 3 edge swap places of all edge pieces. (center and all but 3 edge pieces stay same "locally", corner pieces gets moved around, edge sections gets moved along).

That way I can "solve" all but the 3 last edges, and orient them however I want by manipulating the edges into proper slots. once all edge 3x1 edge pieces are the same color and face the right way, I solve the rest like a 3x3 cube.

All without using algorithms; swapping 3 edge pieces takes 4 90 degree turns the way I do it, in addition to manipulating them into proper place

This post was edited by Dragon_Reborn on Aug 8 2017 02:50pm
Thor123422
#3 Aug 8 2017 04:50pm
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I'll stick to RTS. Rubiks cube make my brain hurt.
MrSkales
#4 Aug 9 2017 06:31am
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Quote (Dragon_Reborn @ Aug 8 2017 06:31pm)
I don't want to learn.


Then dont

Ep0ch
#5 Aug 9 2017 06:55am
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Quote (Dragon_Reborn @ Aug 8 2017 01:31pm)
I don't want to learn (and haven't as of yet) algortighms, since the fun part is figuring it out and understanding how it works.

I picked up a 5x5 some days ago, but I'm stuck at the last part.

I need help flipping the orientation (not the spot) of two of the middle outer edges, and how to do that using logic.

If anyone knows how to do it that'd be great (no algorthims!).

The thing I want to be able to do (and understand how it works) is flipping the edges as in nr 1. in this picture:

https://i.imgur.com/wsTqj.png


How I solve it so far is:

1. solve centers.
2. solve half of bottom (3 edges and 2 corners)
3. solve half of middle layer (2 edges)
4. solve last bottom edge + 1 bottom corner + 1 middle layer edge (2 edges and 1 corner)
5. solve middle edges + corners, while getting as many of the outer middle edges in proper orientation and place (last of the 5 edges and 5 corners)
6. swap any remaining middle outer edges to proper place
7. flip orientation of last middle outer edges (THIS IS WHERE I'M STUCK. MY CUBE LOOKS LIKE FIGURE 1 ABOVE - REST SOLVED)

Also, this was a step up from a 3x3, allthough that took my a while to.


The human mind can solve these algorithms subconciously.

Sleep on it.
Saucisson6000
#6 Aug 9 2017 10:14am
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ROFL

Dragon_Reborn
#7 Aug 9 2017 12:20pm
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Quote (Ep0ch @ 9 Aug 2017 14:55)
The human mind can solve these algorithms subconciously.

Sleep on it.


Thanks, I figured it out.
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 9 Aug 2017 18:14)


Amazing, but not gonna go there. Just doing this as a fun puzzle

Quote (MrSkales @ 9 Aug 2017 14:31)
Then dont


get out of my thread toxic person

This post was edited by Dragon_Reborn on Aug 9 2017 12:21pm
MrSkales
#8 Aug 9 2017 01:33pm
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Quote (Dragon_Reborn @ Aug 9 2017 06:20pm)
get out of my thread toxic person


I highlighted your problem. ( A service)

Oh well carry on.

This post was edited by MrSkales on Aug 9 2017 01:34pm
caswallen
#9 Aug 9 2017 05:35pm
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Quote (MrSkales @ Aug 9 2017 01:33pm)
I highlighted your problem. ( A service)

Oh well carry on.


then let him carry on
MrSkales
#10 Aug 9 2017 06:16pm
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Quote (caswallen @ Aug 9 2017 11:35pm)
then let him carry on


Oh by all means do

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