i dont see that happening tbh ^^
however the moratorium for many asylum seekers to bring their families will be over not too long after the election....could possibly even worse



it does cost a lot by the standards of dozends of millions europeans as well
thats one of the reasons why eastern europeans are resisting to take in migrants, when you tell them that some fake syrian paid more money than they earn a year to make a living of their tax money

Why should Italy care? More able bodied people to work and the risk is on the EU. They can just default like Greece did and get Germany to bail them out. Think about why the UK left.

Another example of the failure of the EU as an organization. Brexit is the beginning, the organization is going to fall apart as nations get out to protect their sovereignty.

that would be racism xenophobia homophobia misogyny islamaphobia londonphobia educationphobia England and Wales

Africa is 3 times bigger than the EU.

If the folks in Africa don't like what's happening in Africa, then they should do something about what's happening in Africa.

Same with the Middle East for that matter.



It's OK for the other countries in the world to fight and die for THEIR own

This refugee crap is getting seriously out of hand.way of life, but Africa and the Middle East are ....exempt? BS!



This refugee crap is getting seriously out of hand.
It's like the parable about the grasshopper and the ant. It seems it's ok for all the OTHER countries to be... "ants"...aka do all the work and fighting to make their own countries nice places to live.

So now the "grasshoppers" want a free ride...aka, the benefits of all the hard work.... w/o all the hard work. WTF ?!?

After the evil "imperials" left one of the first things that the Africans did was rip up irrigation pipes to sell the copper.

Neither Africa nor the middle east are one entity, saying they should take care of their own is nonsensical and portrays a fundamental ignorance of the region.

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Countries (borders) are made by people...they didn't come pre-installed with the Earth. Ignoring this fact is just plain stoopid.

If Africa can not be successful in the global economy with their internal borders the way they are...then move them. Ya know...just like every one else had to do.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 25 2017 08:11am

You say this while saying they shouldn't come here. Borders are artificial. If we can't take care of everybody let's just move the borders.

Your argument is contradictory.

Now you're just being argumentative.

The continents are just about the only borders that came with the Earth...and even they change, albeit over geological time scales.

Throughout history there has been "fighting for territory". This isn't new. I believe that the Romans once held England. England didn't like that, so they did something about it.




The solution you SEEM to be upholding, is that anyone who doesn't like their lot in life can just (without any effort on their part)... pack up and move to some other country...en masse.
In my day, 100,000 people showing up on some countries borders and wanting in, was called an invasion.

Look at India for example. They have some serious overcrowding problems. Do they send boatloads of 100K Indians to the EU or the US etc...and say: We're just too darn lazy to take our own lives in hand, so we want you to do it. No they don't.
They work hard, the get educated or rich and do like everyone else that worked hard....they move where they want.
They DON'T come in 100K lots with ....NOTHING and expect to just be.... taken in.



I don't know what planet YOU live on...but, things just don't work that way.
You want to get hired (taken in) by some company...you don't just appear one day and say it's your duty to take me in. No, you first gain the things (knowledge and experience) you will need to make (taking you in) worth it, to that company.
Countries work the same way.

If we don't do things this way...what we will have is what the Middle East and Africa, have now....a bunch of folks running around in tribes (with nothing anyone wants), fighting with each other all the time for table scraps.



/e Like it or not, we ALL live in a capitalist world. Each country has certain things they can export, and they work very hard to BUY their own place, under the sun.
I seriously doubt that the Far East really wants to do the cheap manufacturing for the world. But that is what they CAN do...so they do it.

I seriously doubt that the US really wanted to spend 12-16 hours a day farming or manufacturing...to buy their place in the world...but...that's what we had....so we did it.

Etc., etc., etc, for any country or continent anywhere. It's called civilization.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 25 2017 08:41am