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Jul 23 2017 04:21am
voluntary charity vs aggression re: jesus not being a socialist.
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Jul 23 2017 06:27am
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voluntary charity vs aggression re: jesus not being a socialist.


Would be a pretty short sermon. Jesus was clear the government can do what it wants with the money it prints.
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Jul 23 2017 06:29am
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I would request a sermon on the importance of using an anthropological/sociological lens when reading the Bible, as opposed to reading the Bible as a face-value historical text.

When I studied, I used the New Oxford Annotated Bible and it put many things into a broader perspective.


I read a bible that would even delve into clever wordplay that is lost in the english version. Lots of puns and subtle jabs at other cultures.
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Jul 23 2017 06:30am
Snowflakes talk about the bible. Just ask him how he is so willing to put his faith and life into a book that was written 2 thousand years ago by men who viewed women as property and used the literature to justify having slaves and committing murder and any kind of injustice you can think of.

Ask him how he can believe in this dogma that has zero empirical basis.
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Jul 23 2017 06:46am
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Snowflakes talk about the bible. Just ask him how he is so willing to put his faith and life into a book that was written 2 thousand years ago by men who viewed women as property and used the literature to justify having slaves and committing murder and any kind of injustice you can think of.

Ask him how he can believe in this dogma that has zero empirical basis.


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Jul 23 2017 06:46am
Self care. People need to be reminded to take care of and love themselves. Self care is the first and most important step to self love.

Jesus loves you, so love yourself. What do you do to do this?

Fishkeeping, hiking, fine dining, coffee are some ways I treat myself well. Eating high quality food because garbage in garbage out. Pets and plants.

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voluntary charity vs aggression re: jesus not being a socialist.


I wouldn't use a church pulpit to settle personal ideological scores lol. Might not be seen as a classy thing to do.

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If someone can't defend their belief to basic fundamental questions , then their belief/faith is weak and they aren't good Christians.


You should isolate clergy first before doing this. I like blindsiding them at weddings :lol:

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If someone can't defend their belief to basic fundamental questions , then their belief/faith is weak and they aren't good Christians.
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I read a bible that would even delve into clever wordplay that is lost in the english version. Lots of puns and subtle jabs at other cultures.


New Oxford Annotated does that, too. It seems Hebrew was ripe for puns, and a lot of that went into their portrayals of Satan and other religions of their time. All of that nuance gets lost to the every-day reader.
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Jul 23 2017 08:10am
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Would be a pretty short sermon. Jesus was clear the government can do what it wants with the money it prints.


you are going to need new pants after stretching that far

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I wouldn't use a church pulpit to settle personal ideological scores lol. Might not be seen as a classy thing to do.

its an important clarification of christian teachings that many people misunderstand and misrepresent.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Jul 23 2017 09:10am)
you are going to need new pants after stretching that far


its an important clarification of christian teachings that many people misunderstand and misrepresent.


It isn't misunderstand and misrepresent, it is genuine disagreement of interpretation. It isn't that they 'just don't understand'. Kind of an ad hom there. A lot of people view government as a collective endeavor, voluntary because there are no serfs, and a way to express charity and collectively promote the general welfare.

Even Jesus acknowledges secular authority and Christianity started as liberation theology.

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