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Jul 18 2017 04:14pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 18 2017 04:12pm)
Is Obamacare a good "first step", i means for transition, to a single payer healthcare system ?


Insofar that it helps define health care as a right, yes. In terms of an actual pivot point logistically? No.
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Jul 18 2017 04:18pm
Quote (excellence @ Jul 18 2017 02:50pm)
>mission accomplished
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>america sux haha


LMAO, accurate summation.
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Jul 18 2017 04:29pm
You know you can have a single payer system where you have the option to go private if you want to spend a little extra for higher quality service?
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Jul 18 2017 04:32pm
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You know you can have a single payer system where you have the option to go private if you want to spend a little extra for higher quality service?


Will just end up with stratified health care with shitty services for poor people and good services for rich people.

We're better off now with universal health care (EMTALA) but not universal insurance, that way at least everybody is getting good health care, even if we are paying through direct taxation and inflated private health insurance for the uninsured.

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Jul 18 2017 04:34pm
Quote (dro94 @ 18 Jul 2017 18:29)
You know you can have a single payer system where you have the option to go private if you want to spend a little extra for higher quality service?

and why would we do that my friend?

the higher quality care would eventually become required by law or whatever cuz it 'wouldnt be fair' that some could afford it and others couldnt afford it
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Jul 18 2017 04:35pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 18 2017 11:32pm)
Will just end up with stratified health care with shitty services for poor people and good services for rich people.

We're better off now with universal health care (EMTALA) but not universal insurance, that way at least everybody is getting good health care, even if we are paying through direct taxation and inflated private health insurance for the uninsured.


Nah, the NHS is pretty good but the waiting lists can be long considering 70m people are entitled to it, so you can go to Bupa or Spire and get treated straight away. A lot of richer people will opt to go for private healthcare but that's their right, and most importantly it doesn't affect the quality of healthcare in the NHS - they're still paying for it regardless.
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Jul 18 2017 05:40pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 18 2017 06:14pm)
Insofar that it helps define health care as a right, yes. In terms of an actual pivot point logistically? No.


How is it a right?

Someone has to provide it after going to school for 8 years. It doesn't just exist floating in the wind.
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Jul 18 2017 05:56pm
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How is it a right?

Someone has to provide it after going to school for 8 years. It doesn't just exist floating in the wind.


How is gun ownership a right?

It doesn't exist floating in the wind. Somebody has to build a factory, manufacture the gun, etc. etc.
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Jul 18 2017 06:02pm
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How is gun ownership a right?

It doesn't exist floating in the wind. Somebody has to build a factory, manufacture the gun, etc. etc.


What are you talking about?

You have to pay for a gun. The same should be true of healthcare.
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Jul 18 2017 06:03pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 18 Jul 2017 19:56)
How is gun ownership a right?

LOOOOOOOL

no wonder someone is 0/50 on med school applications
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