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#131
Jul 27 2017 12:41am
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45 vs 55 => repeal of Obamacare failed.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/health-care-bill-wednesday/index.html

The Senate rejected a proposal from Republican lawmakers to repeal Obamacare on Wednesday, marking a significant milestone in the Republican Party's years-long political crusade to gut former President Barack Obama's legacy health care law.
The vote was 45-55, with seven Republicans opposing the measure.

blabla... Meaning they will have hard time to invent a "replacement" bill before (aka copy and paste?).


trump reaction is a tweet, or some kind of weird fart:

"Senator @lisamurkowski of the Great State of Alaska really let the Republicans, and our country, down yesterday. Too bad!"

:lol:




It always amazes me how you seem able to miss the forest for the trees.


Actual title and gist of the CNN article...

Health care debate: Senate rejects full Obamacare repeal without replacement
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#132
Jul 27 2017 01:01am
Quote (Ghot @ 27 Jul 2017 07:41)
It always amazes me how you seem able to miss the forest for the trees.
Actual title and gist of the CNN article...
Health care debate: Senate rejects full Obamacare repeal without replacement


excuse me ? It's rejected end of story, are you happy or ?...
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#133
Jul 27 2017 01:14am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 27 2017 02:01am)
excuse me ? It's rejected end of story, are you happy or ?...




The point is that the Senate rejected: full Obamacare repeal without replacement


The Senate did not reject: the repeal of Obamacare, but rather the: Obamacare repeal without replacement

Big difference.
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#134
Jul 27 2017 01:19am
Quote (Ghot @ 27 Jul 2017 08:14)
The point is that the Senate rejected: full Obamacare repeal without replacement
The Senate did not reject: the repeal of Obamacare, but rather the: Obamacare repeal without replacement

Big difference.


yep this is what i said in initial post:

"Meaning they will have hard time to invent a "replacement" bill before (aka copy and paste?)."

I remember some poll done about it, a very large part of americans were expecting at least a replacement solution BEFORE a repeal.
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#135
Jul 27 2017 01:34am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 27 2017 02:19am)
yep this is what i said in initial post:

"Meaning they will have hard time to invent a "replacement" bill before (aka copy and paste?)."

I remember some poll done about it, a very large part of americans were expecting at least a replacement solution BEFORE a repeal.




Ok, I'll make it simple for you.

Obamacare is bad because the cost is forced on the people and companies that can least afford it. It's practically killing small businesses.
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#136
Jul 27 2017 02:23am
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Ok, I'll make it simple for you.
Obamacare is bad because the cost is forced on the people and companies that can least afford it. It's practically killing small businesses.


Oh i dont mind, i know usa have too high medical costs, lobbies, and states disparity, making it impossible (or nearly) to follow all the others developped (and even low-developped) countries in a simple universal care system.

On the other hand i cant wait to see what will replace O.care... Especially considering what the american pres-ident tried in first place: Removing O.Care but also the whole stuff created in 50's (medicare or medicaid; the one for old people).

Question: why small businesses have more issues that big ones in paying O.Care ? They are too small to get good contracts or something like that ?

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jul 27 2017 02:23am
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#137
Jul 28 2017 12:31am
oups
Sens. John McCain, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski voted no for the "skinny repeal" bill, resulting in its defeat.

Cant wait to see the next trump tweet fart about it.

McCain saying nope

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#138
Jul 28 2017 03:13pm


what a difference 9 months make
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#139
Jul 28 2017 04:09pm
Quote (low-ki @ 28 Jul 2017 17:13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zeFBguXeCc

what a difference 9 months make


well it was different then! :rofl: the song of the

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This post was edited by excellence on Jul 28 2017 04:09pm
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#140
Jul 28 2017 04:16pm
Quote (low-ki @ 28 Jul 2017 23:13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zeFBguXeCc

what a difference 9 months make


i dont necessarily see a contradiction. mccain wants to replace obamacare with something better, he didnt want to pass what he considered a bad, risky and largely symbolic bill that wouldnt fix the underlying issue.
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