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This is all a load of shit. First of all, everything you pointed to happened pretty deep in Russian controlled territory. Any confession you have or even deaths that did occur we will simply have no reason to believe it is anything other than Russian war propaganda. People were dying all the time and war crimes were rampant during WW2. Take a look at where all of these supposed Jewish exterminations took place. The communists were not the nicest people, so who really knows. I would wager that we need to take a much harder look at those under the command of Joseph Stalin. They won the war so they get to write the history. The use of torture was also used to extract confessions, so having a confession hardly solves anything.
The Nazis documented the killings themselves so...
What your argument adds up to is "if we just refuse to believe any and all evidence for the Holocaust then we have no reason to believe in the Holocaust".
What proof do you have of torture being widespread in acquiring their confessions?
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Massacres happened for every single race and nationality in WW2, but to give the Jews a special name is just silly. They suffered no more than anyone else did. We weren't there, and anything that came out of Stalin's brutal regime is like believing Kim Jong Il has the world record for best golf game. .
Belgian, Italian, French, Dutch etc. Jews were murdered as well tho
the Nazi high leadership literally says "we're going to kill all the Jews" and you still somehow manage to refuse to believe in the Holocaust.
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Also consider that many of the concentration camps had things like pools and dentists and football leagues. What we know of these camps is that they do not have any semblance of anything that could function as a gas chamber.
You mean the plank on the water reservoir that was reserved for SS-men and Kapos?
What do you know of these camps and on what is it that you base your knowledge?
Do you also believe that the Nazis did not kill the mentally ill and the disabled?
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But you simply can not look at all of those examples, which happened on Russian controlled territory after the war had ended, and take them at face value. Stalin was the one with the death camps, stalin was the one who was killing his own soldiers. I don't think it adds up.
If the Nazis themselves literally say that they committed the atrocities that they documented then there is good reason to believe that they did indeed commit the atrocities that they themselves documented.
The Soviets documented their killings as well. It's funny that they should forget to mention that it was them that killed the Jewish population of Eastern Europe.
This post was edited by Gastly on Jul 23 2017 10:33pm