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#11
Jun 13 2017 10:55am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 13 Jun 2017 17:00)
As long as we are in a shortage of organs, then it's a no.

Unfortunately we have to have a utilitarian perspective in times of shortages.



If we had excess livers then yes.


agreed
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Jun 13 2017 11:07am
Quote (duffman316 @ 13 Jun 2017 16:45)
what's wrong with choosing who to help based on their value to society?

as an example if a brain surgeon and a gender studies major both needed heart transplants, would you not agree that the brain surgeon ought to get priority?


No. Whoever is in most serious need should get it. If both are equally ill then whichever came first.

Who has the right to judge who is of more worth?
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Jun 13 2017 11:11am
Not a chance
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Jun 13 2017 11:13am
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No. Whoever is in most serious need should get it. If both are equally ill then whichever came first.

Who has the right to judge who is of more worth?


So if I get liver disease from booze, don't stop drinking, and crash my liver worse than a kid who has hep c, I should get the liver?
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Jun 13 2017 11:13am
I deserve a new car, for crashing my old one.
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Jun 13 2017 11:14am
Being mentally weak is not a decision.
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Jun 13 2017 11:15am
Quote (Scaly @ Jun 13 2017 12:07pm)
No. Whoever is in most serious need should get it. If both are equally ill then whichever came first.

Who has the right to judge who is of more worth?


easy, the people who decide who gets the liver
whether they choose a random lottery system, first come first serve etc. it is up to them though i'd favor a merit based system
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Jun 13 2017 11:19am
Quote (Scaly @ Jun 13 2017 12:07pm)
No. Whoever is in most serious need should get it. If both are equally ill then whichever came first.

Who has the right to judge who is of more worth?


No, if they are equally ill then there is an obvious choice based on future life expectancy and likelihood to have further complications with the new organ either due to their health situation or lifestyle.
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#19
Jun 13 2017 11:22am
Prioritizing the healthy and responsible people is not only the most beneficial/productive solution for society, but it's also an incentive for people to stay healthy.
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Jun 13 2017 11:22am
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