as long as they don't start training those border dogs to find pills people will continue to go over the border for affordable pills

the reality is in the social media driven world we're in the GOP is forever on the side of bad press. Sure a large part of people will roll the eyes but the "Obamacare is costing lives" headlines pale in comparison with what's coming. Anecdotal stories will be slung at them from town hall to town hall. Its really what they deserve, not because they're unilaterally wrong, but because after 4 years of posturing like they had a plan and it would be easy they're now out of rope. That shit first plan and this bill are shameful with the posturing they did. All those repeal votes were a joke, and now they look like a joke.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 4 2017 06:54pm

Well the Democratic party is better according to every possible metric of measurement over the history of the United States. They've always been a joke. If people like Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh can be considered their intelligentsia they're worse than ever.

They've managed to nominate and elect Cartman from South Park to POTUS.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 4 2017 07:06pm

You're still on this? we already debunked that talking point, and 'every possible metric' in US history is a further ridiculous extension of the claim.

yeah yeah I know, the old better metric schitck. Unsaid in there in that stat, if it means anything in reality, could represent a 52%-48% win. and it implies one group is 100% better because they're 4% better...

conservative ideology has plenty of merits, as does the progressive platform. the flaw is the 2 party system that has forced a lot of gridlock and pandering to some shitty ideas as of late. but its a lot closer than most end of the spectrums like to admit when we look at how many truly shitty people there are on both sides of the aisle. 90% of them are self serving asshats. for example, I cant wait for the eventual democrat fix and the pressure for them to not protect themselves and their staffs that they're now slinging at the GOP.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 4 2017 07:10pm

Lol, not true at all. You say this a lot when it isn't true.

Education, quality of life, access to healthcare, affordability of housing, access to nutrition, domestic security, rural electrification, every possible metric, favors Democrats over time.



We're post collaboration. The well is poisoned. I see no reason to work with people who just seem to want to shit the bed all the time. Call me bitter after watching for years as the Democratic party begged the GOP to help craft a health care bill and see them just state that their number one goal was politically motivated (remove Obama via reelection through obstruction). They can suck a dick with their racist tea party and all that. Crying about overtaxation from the federal government when Obama had lowered federal taxes to the lowest of any American president since Eisenhower. They're immune to reason. Conservatives are such emotional voters it is just so vexing.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 4 2017 07:17pm

Single payer and don't let people who smoke, drink, and can't pass a basic fitness test benefit.
People need to learn how to stop treating their bodies like sludge before the issue of affordable health care can really be tackled
we spend the most as a country but still so unhealthy

for once we have to admit the problem is us not just the system

but that's really hard to do

This post was edited by DCSS on May 4 2017 07:18pm

Before you conservatives use australian medical price hikes as an example keep in mind we have conservatives in power who are trying to make our system more like yours, and prices have been soaring upwards since they got in.
Still a third of the cost of american medical issues though.

Next I hear they are going to attack overtime laws, for freedom and families.

Watch as Cam defends the butchers of the working class

This post was edited by Skinned on May 4 2017 07:26pm

has there ever been a conservative solution to any problem that couldn't be summed up as

-reduce taxes for the rich
-reduce regulations
-reduce benefits for the poor

i'd bet this template solution would fit any problem when approached from a conservative perspective