Yea I understand. Basically one shotting the bosses does get pretty cheezy.

The problem basically boils down to: At what threshold should players start seeing diminishing returns after you completely break the game? (For example being insanely OP).

It's just hard to tackle this dilemma because of two things:

A: If a player spends xx amount of currency to be insanely OP, let them break the fucking game.

B: Difficulty should be scaled / hard all the time and challenge players even if you have insane OP gear



I'm more of POE personality A type. I believe from what you have said so far, you're mostly in between, or siding on the POE personality B type. Which is fine. I just know that GGG is mostly A at heart so it will be heart to change that up

Your mechanics point is spot on. Maybe AI needs to be scaled off of a player's DPS. For example, if you reach a certain DPS threshold, some bosses start using different AI mechanics. This way, players who are insanely geared still have challenging fights

Stfu

You talk so fucking much and never really say anything

Remove garbage mechanics like reflect and prox shields and buff monster hp and damage.
And make less linear maps more pack size.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Apr 22 2017 09:29pm

Had to go look it up just for you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/57umb0/path_of_exile_atlas_the_lioneyes_watch_podcast_09/d8v3g7i/

Scaling it off of player's DPS would be a pretty awful way to code it because of the various types of dps that players have coming from different sources. It's a coding nightmare.

Overall tho, players have figured out the game enough that we all have a pretty good understanding of where the top end power stands.

Now you don't want to gate players from content for not going meta or for being poor or bad at the game... and to a certain extent, this is what GGG is trying to do. Letting the really good players blast through content while the rest of the players struggle a bit.

I get where they're coming from, but I would much rather see content like Guardians, Shaper, Atziri/Uber, T15 bosses and all that be content that you NEED to be powerful to tackle. Content that people can use as goals. Lil Joe and his hipster ele hit, summon skeleton RF, low life, no shavs build with 2k ES has something to look forward to as he figures out the game.

As it stands now, you can fuck shit up with a white crude bow, blast to T15 maps with vendor gear and some gem levels...it takes away the feeling of accomplishment. I remember back when Atziri was actually a breakpoint to determine whether your build was good or not. Now it's just a fucking joke.

Wow , talk about nerd rage

Remove trigger gems
Nerf almost every single flask in the game by minimum 50%
Make linear maps t5 and below
Experience bonus for parties
Experience penalty for solo play

This post was edited by Meatstick on Apr 23 2017 12:15am

You're basically arguing for Equity over Equality.



I don't think that's the right thing to do, in an rpg in particular it ruins the feeling of progression. I had a lot of fun with untold legends on my PSP back in the day but the main reason i stopped playing was every area scaled with your strength so you never really felt like you were getting stronger. WoW also recently took this stance because they couldn't balance mob kill times and wanted to time-gate content right down to the individual boar and everyone hates it. If PoE goes down the same road I will not play it.

Do not punish players for advancing their character.

This post was edited by DCSS on Apr 23 2017 12:55am

I agree. I'm more of the A type I listed. If you get OP as fuck (spend a lot of time on gear, etc), players should break the game. However, it's coming to a point (that CM Burns has pointed out), where it just becomes insanely cheezy. I agree with that too. I don't think it should be that game breaking. There should still be some challenge, and that has to scale somehow

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Apr 23 2017 01:24am

Well.. just make more difficult endgame content and make the rewards for them greater, the current issue seems to stem from the fact that mid-tier red (11-13) are the most rewarding to power farm. Shaper/uber atziri barely pay for the costs of running them most of the time.