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Apr 22 2017 03:34pm
Quote (SenorNZ @ 22 Apr 2017 23:31)
I would be much more scared of chemical weapons or dirty bombs than actual nuclear warheads.


Im more scared from biological weapons than any chemical, dirty or tectonic bomb, or even from project Pluto.
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Apr 22 2017 03:40pm
Quote (DCSS @ Apr 23 2017 09:33am)
Bro the disconnect between what you're doing and what's happening makes it easier... that's why suicide rates are so high, guns make it easy. the guys in the planes that bombed hiroshima and nagasaki didn't have to see people dying up close.


That is a complete contradiction in a single paragraph.

The initial reaction in the enola gay was "what have we done". And that was at the end of a world war full of atrocities.

USA/Korea is political, a completely different situation. I'm positive there is no wide spread hate towards Koreans like there was the Japanese and Nazis. It would be very different. Plus those were the first dropped, experiments, no one really knew what was going to happen.

I seriously don't see nuclear war as a realistic option.
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Apr 22 2017 03:43pm
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those were the first dropped, experiments, no one really knew what was going to happen.


That's patently untrue.
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Apr 22 2017 03:50pm
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That's patently untrue.


Please refer me to another example of a nuclear detonation over a populated city.

Also please tell me why only 0.7 grams of the uranium in little boy went supercritical out of the 141 pounds it contained? They were live experiments which is why they used two completely different devices ( a plutonium vs uranium bomb) to assess which was more effective.

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Apr 22 2017 03:54pm
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Also please tell me why only 0.7 grams of the uranium in little boy went supercritical out of the 141 pounds it contained? They were live experiments which is why they used two completely different devices ( a plutonium vs uranium bomb) to assess which was more effective.


Because the force of the explosion blew away the rest of the material before it could participate in the chain reaction? It's not something that can be overcome it's just a fact of life with fission bombs; most of it is going to waste.

anyway there was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test) before we bombed japan, ofc it wasn't over a populated city you don't need to see what this explosion can do to a populated city to know what it would do to one after witnessing it. That's like saying no-one knows what this gun will do if you aim it at someone's head and pull the trigger because we've only ever see it hit practice targets!
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Because the force of the explosion blew away the rest of the material before it could participate in the chain reaction? It's not something that can be overcome it's just a fact of life with fission bombs; most of it is going to waste.

anyway there was [URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test)]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test)[/URL] before we bombed japan, ofc it wasn't over a populated city you don't need to see what this explosion can do to a populated city to know what it would do to one after witnessing it. That's like saying no-one knows what this gun will do if you aim it at someone's head and pull the trigger because we've only ever see it hit practice targets!


Wow they tested them first really?

They were brand new technology, which had never been detonated in combat, a complete experiment.

Using your analogy of a gun, shooting them at paper targets does not at all prepare you for what it's like shooting a human in the head. The very first time a human was shot with a bullet would have been just as experimental...

I'm sure they they knew the blast was going to be large but how exactly it was going to affect people at extended distances and with the fall out afterwards was a pretty grey area.
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Apr 22 2017 06:42pm
Very interesting topic here, with great responses​
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Proof right here

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Apr 23 2017 01:03am
13 is the most lucky number in my life, no matter what will happen
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