Quote (Plaguefear @ Apr 11 2017 10:12am)
You can use the wand with a 650 es titanium though.
You can, however, you'll lose a 60% big aura, with prism guardian, (Still at 8k Es range)
Also, 650 titanium, has no spell damage, you'll lose out on 70+ spell damage, to increased damage via coe.
Quote (ZealGo @ Apr 11 2017 11:36am)
yeah not really sure where you're getting 5-8k ES from. Also most wanders are playing pathfinder with alchemist's quicksilver of adrenaline for movement, not lightning warp.
Choir of storms, Prism gaurd, skyforth, Shavs, coe are all shitty Es unique's. 1Qs = lose 1 flask slot, compared to bower Hh + 7steps + bow ms nodes, is almost 80+ms slowerer w/o blink arrow on terrain.
Quote (pypyjyys @ Apr 11 2017 11:37am)
Wands have insane scaling through passives, they are definitely not weak. Tempest blast gives 30% added dmg as lightning and you also get 10% fire dmg and 10% cold dmg as added damage, how is that not good?
Add shavs and go low life for max deeps. Kinetic blast>LA for aoe clear imo
Bow nodes usually only scale crit/and or phys dmg while wand nodes are increased dmg with wands which allows you to scale elemental dmg too. Idk if its a big difference though. Bow nodes also kinda got buffed recently
Bow builds get +1proj from quiver which is hard to compansate but wands have way higher aps than bows.
I would go wands over bows just cuz Id like to do an old school crown of eyes+shavs wander.
In the end a signal shot brood twine would most likely be better all around but if you use brood, glyph, foe or this new wand you are gonna faceroll most content anyway.
From what ive seen wanders have better single target against shaper buti ts just random youtube vids. Havent actually seen a proper comparison
Those nodes looks nice, but they are mostly additives, lacking crit and crit multi, requiring huge wheel investments, they're also 2-3 points out of the way, making them even more inefficient.
La shot guns with pierce with 1 hit guaranteeing hits on all targets, kbs aoe nerfed, its spread is questionable, may require more than 1 attack.
Yes and additional projs etc.
Quote (Ctrain2 @ Apr 11 2017 11:59am)
Wanders absolutely destroy all content... even with trash wands. You can scale so much damage through auras if you have a shit wand...
Put this thing on.. and you are a GOD. You will one shot all packs basically.. and probably rares (my mediocre set up I could already do that)
Your single target with the barrage enchants and point blank and flat scaling is nuts (I could blow up 1-15 maps in seconds) Guardians were do-able / shaper / atziri and breachs were jokes.
With something like this I would have gotten another 1.5 "more" multipliers... As a wander I'm pretty confident I could be competing with all the "top unethical" builds for damage output.. having just as much if not more.
To give you and idea my barrage was around ~280k per shot.. most bow builds are typically capping out with like 400k per shot.. With this wand i'd figure you could hit the 450k+ range.
Not to mention you can wear a shield.. that's so stupidly strong. hello second chest plate with more ES / Resist
Prism guard = no es, but scales auras, but if you can clear with any wands, it begs the question, do you even need to mirror the wand in the first place?
You can oneshot any pack, with Doomfletch prism bow, with LA w/o abyssus, which is like 4ex, clearing strand all day, anyday, clear speed, and efficiency isn't about how HARD you can hit, but rather, efficiency is measured by few things.
1 monster kill rate
2 Map travel speed
3 survivability.
point blank, is 5 points away from any other wander tree, it is nice, but it is out of the way to get, bows have a much higher crit scaling capability, and is right next door to point blank, and it's crit/ bow nodes.
^See unique points above, and ^See MS point above.
Even if you're killing bosses faster than bows, you're still farrrrrrrrrr slower in comparison to bow builds.
Quote (lolepple @ Apr 11 2017 01:36pm)
Quote (Exalted_Orberlord @ Apr 11 2017 01:50pm)
Endgame content is cleared while being dead aka elementalist golems.
Non endgame content can be cleared SSF np.
There is no real need in mirrored items anymore whatsoever. But perfectionists will always buy it for the sake of being best in slot. Whales will buy it to brag.
honestly, I agree.
Quote (karastrinket @ Apr 11 2017 04:38pm)
:drool: nice wand damn
I feel that way too, but it feels like a trap.
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Apr 11 2017 02:13pm)
pathfinder + quicksilver + 30 movement speed boots + vaal haste = maybe slightly less faster than shield charge but pretty close to the same speed
4 linked, shield charge with insanity is about 320 movemetn speed, path + qs + 30 ms + vaal haste is like 180-220, raider with qs is like 170 flat, it just really doesn't cut it.
This post was edited by Lamperouge on Apr 11 2017 11:10am