Assad doing this ? He has really no interest: not a single one.

Trump need a distraction to hide his circus presidency: lets says Syria is hidding weapons of ass destruction.

I would not be surprised if usa & israel did this

lmao of course he does, if everyone else around you is dropping dead for opposing him it's not great for morale. they don't play by the same rules as everyone else.

Maybe "he" did, but i would certainly not be 100% sure of the issue, not to mention several time his army, and not himself, was involved.
In anyway those 100 people have to be compared with the million killed by usa (directly or indirectly) in iraq... Including like an hundred of thousands children. Could also go back on chemical bombing in vietnam. Could also extend on all others authoritarian countries: the way usa is opening its mouth is pretty much selective.



the "morale" yeah, sure.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 6 2017 05:53am

Not surprising.
Just a tyrant dealing with his problems in the only way he knows how to. Just like his father before him.

@Saucisson6000 - you are 100% right. Israel must be responsible for this. The Jews probably want extra blood on their Matza in this year's Passover.

Those Israeli's.. first boombing them, then treating them. Unbeliveble.

http://observer.com/2016/03/the-cost-of-humanity-israel-saves-syrians-despite-pushback-from-critics/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Apr 6 2017 10:26am

yeah there's always some ambiguity in war, but Assad's side easily has capacity and reason to do it. so hardly surprising

the Assad's family raison d'etre is to crush Israel, so why are people surprised?

Capacity yes, reason no. Provoking the western powers makes no sense from Assads perspective, not when the status quo is completely in his favor

I agree with the general sentiment that this attack makes no sense for assad. however, there were airplanes attacking the city right when the gas was released. the IS doesnt have airplanes, nor do the rebels. this leaves the syrian regime, russia, turkey, and the US as the only possible perpetrators. if it were the americans, russian air surveillance would have caught it and they would have told the world. if it were the turkish airforce, the american/nato radar would know and turkey would already be kicked out of nato by now. the russians as allies of assad are too smart and cunning to conduct such a PR-disaster.

so since the russians neither accused the americans nor denied that aircrafts from the syrian-russian alliance were operating in that area at the time, but instead brought up their bullshit excuse of "accidentally having hit the gas tank" (an excuse whose timeline doesnt match up), this is pretty much the confirmation that it was one of them. if it was a ground-based false flag operation by the rebels, isis, the turkish intelligence or anything like that, the russians would 100% have given a different explanation than the one they gave. so this pretty much rules out those explanations. this leaves only assad.

it baffles me and I really dont understand why assad would do that, for all the reasons already laid out in this thread, but logic points to this conclusion.



the only other fringe explanation I could come up with is that the russians betrayed assad: the russians have been improving their relationship with erdogan and turkey for several months now. they are already allowing the turkish army to operate within the kurdish areas close to the turkish border. it is also no secret that erdogan still wants assad gone, and still has interests in syria that go beyond just preventing a kurdish state on his southern border.

so lets assume for a moment that the russians have secretly come to an agreement with the turks that serves the turkish interests but also prevents the russians interests (keep their military station in tartus, prevent the saudi-katari oil pipeline to the mediterranean). in this case, assad has becoem a liability for the russians. in this case, he serves no more purpose for them, but they also cant just outright ditch him since they would lose their face. and ofc it would send a very inconvenient signal to all their other present and future allies. therefore, it would make sense for the russians to stage a joint false flag operation with the turkish intelligence to frame assad for an atrocious crime that the west cant ignore and that will, further down the line, allow the russians to drop their support for assad without losing face. but I'll admit that this is a very wild and very fringe theory.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 6 2017 11:11am

Im pretty sure Israel (i means the far right nationalist governement in charge) would support an action/manipulation, even killing children, just to justify a future agression or simply contribute in destabilizing the situation. It's not "jews", because "jews" arent all sack of reject zionists extremists.

Actually im not blindly trusting medias like some people here seems to do, so "yeah" i will stay in the uncertainty.
And dont forget what i said about iraq 2 casualities.

Okay what if to riff on that theory, he's another simpler one- Assad is wary of the Russian influence in Syria. He was happy to cater to them with military bases and be under the Russian umbrella, but he doesn't want to become a puppet extension of Putins, and with all the Russian presence in Syria he sees the writing on the wall. So he rationalizes that the US/EU won't be pulled into the war even if he commits atrocities, but they *will* exert pressure on Russia as their next best recourse. Thus, he uses chemical weapons to provoke the west into pressuring Russia to cut support for Assad. They've already driven the rebels out of every stronghold and the syrian army can mop up, so even if russia cut him off entirely he's not to worried when the only fight left is the kurds advancing on raqqa. He'll still have his hands full rejoining his fractured country, but he won't have to worry about being overthrown.

And the "Western Powers" are going to do what differently, exactly? Only the delusional think US & co. will give Assad a free pass after ISIS is defeated. Israel in particular is existentially threatened by Assad's reign due to his historical hostility and his symbiotic ties with Iran; likewise, the Trump administration won't give Iran any quarter. Even if the Commander-in-Chief is a dimwit the State Department will realize "oh look, a strong Iran foothold right above Israel" (on top of Iraq being increasingly pro-Iran). Then there's the whole thing about America supporting what are basically secessionists in Northern Syria and Iraq.

Assad has "provoked" everyone from his own citizens to the world powers because murder is the only thing that keeps his regime alive. People here talk like he's some sort of elected official who needs to carefully watch what he does or says. He doesn't.