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May 31 2017 04:38pm
So a quick google search found that conservatives try to block people speaking as well.

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education database, which defends students’ and professors’ First Amendment rights, documented 286 efforts to disinvite scheduled campus speakers between 2000 and 2014.

One hundred and sixty student groups and faculty “from the left” of the speaker tried to disinvite the individual during the period, according to FIRE. Only 96 students and faculty “from the right” of the speaker sought to block a speaker.

Not only do conservatives try to block free speech, they also succeed at it more than liberals.

College administrators granted a few more requests from conservatives than liberals — 56 versus 49. FIRE counted official dis-invitations from the university, speakers withdrawing from events, and heckling that forced the speaker off stage during a presentation.
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May 31 2017 05:03pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 31 2017 04:38pm)
So a quick google search found that conservatives try to block people speaking as well.

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education database, which defends students’ and professors’ First Amendment rights, documented 286 efforts to disinvite scheduled campus speakers between 2000 and 2014.

One hundred and sixty student groups and faculty “from the left” of the speaker tried to disinvite the individual during the period, according to FIRE. Only 96 students and faculty “from the right” of the speaker sought to block a speaker.

Not only do conservatives try to block free speech, they also succeed at it more than liberals.

College administrators granted a few more requests from conservatives than liberals — 56 versus 49. FIRE counted official dis-invitations from the university, speakers withdrawing from events, and heckling that forced the speaker off stage during a presentation.


tl:dr All kids are stupid. Has nothing to do with left or right.
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May 31 2017 05:08pm
Just wanna say I listened to the interview in the OP and it is quite good. They hit on a lot of topics and I don't think they said anything I personally disagree with.
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May 31 2017 05:12pm
Quote (Skinned @ 1 Jun 2017 00:22)
Heh. Good saying.

Your conservatives lined up the workers of Spain and gunned them down under Franco....he strangled pregnant women and nobody in the country was brave enough to stand up to him then....just beware of the fascists.

That wasn't long ago. 1970s?


The hard repression you describe ended was after the Civil War ended in 1939 and it continued up until the 50s when Franco decided to abandon autarky, let Spain into international organizations (most notably the UN in 1955) and looked for anti-communist allies (Eisenhower's visit was greatly used as propaganda here to portray Spain as a modern country that was regaining influence around the world).

"Soft" repression (albeit still repression, but not the kind that gets you killed for your ideas) lasted until Franco died in 1975.

We remember very well the atrocities fascism bring. Indeed we must beware of them. But the leftist front Franco fought in the war also commited brutal crimes and praised stalinism. The point is, both extreme ends of the spectrum can lead to savage totalitarianism and fascism isn't just a right-wing or conservative thing (another saying, this one by an italian author whose name I can't remember right now, is that "there are two types of fascists: fascists and anti-fascists".

This post was edited by zarkadon on May 31 2017 05:13pm
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Jun 5 2017 04:41am
Keeping this thread updated with the outrage addicts' online lynch mobs is too much work. Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher are two of the latest targets. If you don't like an entertainer, don't consume their products. Attempting to censor them for everyone else is tyranny.
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