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Mar 27 2017 08:14pm
Hi, I'm planning to build dual sword barb just for fun, he will be pvm char, but I can't find a guide on what skills to invest, what gear etc...
is frenzy better than ww or vice versa. what merc? what gears should I use on the merc? etc...

need advice from all the pros here... :hail:
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Mar 27 2017 09:18pm
dual sword barbs are usually the preferred build for PvM because phase blades being indestructible grief bases makes them far more practical than other weapons that constantly need to be repaired.
Its possible to get better overall stats with lower ias weapons ie a berserker axe, which performs better largely because of its range advantage, but needing to repair nonstop in pvm is a major knock against grief BA, while grief is so overpowered it dwarfs the other 1 handed weapons
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Mar 27 2017 09:27pm
you could pvm with a bow barb. its pvm.
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Mar 27 2017 09:38pm
Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 27 2017 10:27pm)
you could pvm with a bow barb. its pvm.


I'll put 50fg on your claim (bow barb) of a legit single player documented walkthru on pvm p8 Guardian completion.

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This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Mar 27 2017 09:39pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 28 2017 11:18am)
dual sword barbs are usually the preferred build for PvM because phase blades being indestructible grief bases makes them far more practical than other weapons that constantly need to be repaired.
Its possible to get better overall stats with lower ias weapons ie a berserker axe, which performs better largely because of its range advantage, but needing to repair nonstop in pvm is a major knock against grief BA, while grief is so overpowered it dwarfs the other 1 handed weapons


wanted to put grief pb on one hand and other runeword like botd collosus sword on the other but since you said that grief is so overpowered it dwarfs the other 1 weap then in this case should I make it dual grief pb?

Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 28 2017 11:27am)
you could pvm with a bow barb. its pvm.


and its diablo2, even a pvm bow barb still need a proper planning :rofl:

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Mar 27 2017 10:22pm
my friend runs duel death colossus sword I run lw and grief pb (as well as duel ebotdz)
he uses ww and I am a frenzy.

easily beat ubers with them.
I would say that swords are still very viable barb builds

as for guides and preferred skill it all up ti you really.
I use fort angelics gores laying of hands dungos/nos belt its that simple.
and then pick what you like better ww or frenzy.

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Quote (tobi_damaris @ Mar 27 2017 09:47pm)
wanted to put grief pb on one hand and other runeword like botd collosus sword on the other but since you said that grief is so overpowered it dwarfs the other 1 weap then in this case should I make it dual grief pb?


Botw colossus sword caps out at ~370 damage while having speed -50. A grief phase blade goes up to ~438 damage with speed -70
Aside from damage, the botd has +1 rangeadder some life/mana steal, +200% nonweapon ED to undead and +30 all stats, but has far higher stat requirements. The grief has ignores defense, 20% ds and up to +185% nonweapon ED to demons.
grief PB isn't 'strictly' better in every category, but its far better in general

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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 28 2017 12:34pm)
Botw colossus sword caps out at ~370 damage while having speed -50. A grief phase blade goes up to ~438 damage with speed -70
Aside from damage, the botd has +1 rangeadder some life/mana steal, +200% nonweapon ED to undead and +30 all stats, but has far higher stat requirements. The grief has ignores defense, 20% ds and up to +185% nonweapon ED to demons.
grief PB isn't 'strictly' better in every category, but its far better in general


but grief pb lacks any mana /life leech which is important to melee char
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Mar 28 2017 12:22am
Frenzy and WW ftw. get 2 grief pbs

I prefer frenzy for pvm but thats just my pref
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Mar 28 2017 12:32am
Quote (kai_jph @ Mar 28 2017 02:22pm)
Frenzy and WW ftw. get 2 grief pbs

I prefer frenzy for pvm but thats just my pref


still where can you get the life / mana leech if dual grief pb's?
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