Quote (Anton24 @ Mar 15 2017 03:20pm)

Flat out ask her out. If you think you're handsome and can offer enough of whatever else makes you unique, then go for it.

How? Literally just say, "hey, I know it might be kind of awkward to just ask like this, but I really like you and was wondering if you wanna go out sometime?"

Do NOT break eye contact. Hold steady and breathe easy. Own it.

It's really simple when you cut out the bullshit and are transparent.

If you build up the task as an event, the girl will sense the trepidation. She'll either accept, out of curiosity, or decline, because your masculinity and sense of man worth are a clouded scent. Ooze confidence. Maybe a dash of some Pi by Givenchy, or some Acqua Di Gio by Armani.

If she declines, for whatever reason, don't take it up as a you being flawed and ruined or some shit. Take the rejection, and ask her out later. If you have the balls. Persistence pays. Don't be a creep though. Like angry passive aggressiveness. Just be normal, be polite in class, and when ready, just say, "hey there soul crusher, wanna give me another shot and get some bubble tea after we finish today?" Put her on the spot and make her smile.

You said you were gonna take a simple approach. I think that's the best course of action being that you have no foundation with the person aside from quick chats. You'll separate from the friend part and be a suitor.

Quote (Captain87 @ Mar 15 2017 02:15pm)

Read this thread earlier, didn't have the opportunity to post until now.

Spot on post by Anton, it really doesn't have to be a game

I've recently been pretty successful with this honesty first approach without any games.

Bottom line nut up or shut up.

Quote (Anton24 @ Mar 16 2017 08:42am)

For me it's about whether you want a girl or a woman. I think girls and younger women enjoy games to an extent, don't mind mystique or a bad boy or rough edges, and can adapt. Women have been through the shit, have experience that can really change life perspective, and sometimes don't value your face value as much as what you have inside.

This is all personal, and comes from being a fat guy that's now got what a lot of women enjoy about me; dad bod. It's slimmed down, I didn't fuck around and have kids early on, and have been able to financially stabilize. With that in mind, dating got a lot easier because the basics for foundation on my end were covered. So, I didn't need a game or to pretend I was a pilot, or have an in. I didn't need to get em drunk or loose. I just simply told em what I wanted.

Works for some, not for all haha.

Quote (Captain87 @ Mar 16 2017 07:17am)

Yeah, young moms have been my bread and butter lol. So I feel yah with the games and craziness set aside.

Quote (Anton24 @ Mar 16 2017 11:08am)

Haha for sure. Dated a few single moms myself. Never long enough to get attached to the kids (one time I did, and it sucked, miss that little fucker.)

Quote (GLYC123 @ Mar 16 2017 12:48pm)

I agree with he majority of Antons post, but I don't agree with the idea that persistence pays.

If she declines, move on.

If she's curious, she will start initiating with you (and may even bring it up to you, it's happened to me before), at that point you can ask her out.

Guys that are a catch won't be persistent, you have to keep moving and not look back. Even if you try to play it cool, you will still come off as a creep since she's rejected you before. It shows that you don't get what rejection is. A woman would be more turned off at this.

Quote (CPK001 @ Mar 17 2017 02:35am)

Wear a suit and tie.