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Mar 13 2017 09:19pm
Back when the ACA was coming along Republicans said old people were going to die via Obama death panels deciding who gets to live... People actually believed that.

Now we have the red team's go at it which will cause 20 million + to loose coverage, I wonder what % of those will actually die from lack of coverage?

This plan is essentially sentencing some to death. Seems kinda death panelish to me.

I am sure it will be okay though. Look how much smaller the AHCA is when printed and stacked up against the ACA is. So so small..

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Mar 13 2017 09:28pm
there is already a thread or two on this but you felt the need to make a daily

thread

This post was edited by excellence on Mar 13 2017 09:28pm
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there is already a thread or two on this but you felt the need to make a daily
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Mar 13 2017 09:31pm
i'd wager this news makes a lot of people happy if this crowd reaction is anything to go by
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Mar 13 2017 09:43pm
low info voter makes another low info fear mongering thread

must be monday

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Now we have the red team's go at it which will cause 20 million + to loose coverage, I wonder what % of those will actually die from lack of coverage?

This is false.
The higher projection of people without insurance is largely driven by the elimination of the mandate and its penalties.
aka People who were coerced into buying health insurance are less likely to buy health insurance if they are no longer coerced.
They would still be able to buy health insurance if they wanted to.

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This plan is essentially sentencing some to death. Seems kinda death panelish to me.

Equating not forcing people to buy health insurance with a death sentence /10
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Mar 13 2017 09:54pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 13 2017 10:43pm)
low info voter makes another low info fear mongering thread

must be monday


This is false.
The higher projection of people without insurance is largely driven by the elimination of the mandate and its penalties.
aka People who were coerced into buying health insurance are less likely to buy health insurance if they are no longer coerced.
They would still be able to buy health insurance if they wanted to.


Equating not forcing people to buy health insurance with a death sentence /10


both of which were necessary to insure those that can't pay afaik? wasn't that the point
how is it not a death sentence for that demographic, particularly the ones that are sick

This post was edited by duffman316 on Mar 13 2017 09:58pm
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Mar 13 2017 10:12pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Mar 13 2017 08:31pm)
i'd wager this news makes a lot of people happy if this crowd reaction is anything to go by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irx_QXsJiao


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Mar 13 2017 10:14pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 13 2017 08:43pm)
low info voter makes another low info fear mongering thread

must be monday


This is false.
The higher projection of people without insurance is largely driven by the elimination of the mandate and its penalties.
aka People who were coerced into buying health insurance are less likely to buy health insurance if they are no longer coerced.
They would still be able to buy health insurance if they wanted to.


Equating not forcing people to buy health insurance with a death sentence /10


I think math is on my side.
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Mar 13 2017 10:44pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Mar 13 2017 09:31pm)
i'd wager this news makes a lot of people happy if this crowd reaction is anything to go by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irx_QXsJiao


People need to be punished for wrong choices.
If someone chooses not to have health insurance you don't just go ahead and bail them out anyway.
Otherwise why would anybody ever want health insurance.

Unless you want to hike taxes for a universal health care system because that's the only way that works.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Mar 13 2017 10:48pm
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Mar 13 2017 10:46pm
Quote (Brian_D @ Mar 13 2017 11:14pm)
I think math is on my side.


No its not. You fundamentally misunderstand/misrepresent what the CBO says.

The CBO also suffers from their regular 'garbage in = garbage out' problem.
They were wildly off on their obamacare projections already.

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both of which were necessary to insure those that can't pay afaik? wasn't that the point

No.
penalizing people for not buying expensive insurance isn't the only way to pay for poor/sick people.

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how is it not a death sentence for that demographic, particularly the ones that are sick

Not having insurance isnt the same as not having care/dying, and i already rejected your premise above.
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