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Mar 13 2017 06:55pm
https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/americanhealthcareact_0.pdf

14 million more without insurance by next year, 24 million more uninsured in 9 years.

Yet the Donald told us during his campaign that "This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, 'No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private'… I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now."

Medicare for all saves more money and covers more people (saves $400 billion/yr vs $400 billion over a decade in the AHA). http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/Costs_and_Savings

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Mar 13 2017 07:06pm
This is just one of the many Trump campaign promises that his cult will ignore. They'll justify it any way they can. Truth for them is what Trump says and does within 24 hours.
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Mar 13 2017 07:09pm
well they got it totally right with the ACA (Obamacare) score. we can take this scoring 100% at face value.
and yes it should be Ryancare, after that horrible powerpoint presentation with his sleeves rolled up like he was about to change a tire or something :wacko:
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Quote (excellence @ Mar 13 2017 08:09pm)
well they got it totally right with the ACA (Obamacare) score. we can take this scoring 100% at face value.
and yes it should be Ryancare, after that horrible powerpoint presentation with his sleeves rolled up like he was about to change a tire or something :wacko:


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Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 13 2017 02:56pm)
of course i have to be 20% out on the day the GOP finally shits an egg and the CBO report drops. Looking forward to reading the excuses the alt right kiddos give, assuming they don't just say "me first, damn illegals i'm paying for, fuck poor people and old people".


They'll either quote instances where the CBO was off, or like Breitbart claim that the healthcare law needs revised.

Either way, fuck those retards.


inb4'd through PM, cuck

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Mar 13 2017 07:11pm
More people will choose not to purchase health insurance when not forced to do so.
Thats not very surprising or condemning.

Ofc the obamacare-lite plan is trash for other reasons.
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inb4'd through PM, cuck

poor snipa iss a little upset he got ban hammered for being an anti-Semite. go cluck around about (c)linton in a landslide and leave the proper discussion on issues that matter to people who understand issues and don't worship buzzfeed 2.0

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More people will choose not to purchase health insurance when not forced to do so.
Thats not very surprising or condemning.

Ofc the obamacare-lite plan is trash for other reasons.

yeah this is like saying when people are mandated to buy toasters and then the mandate goes away toaster ownership drops. shocker
its a shitty proposal and should be edited thoroughly
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Mar 13 2017 07:27pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 13 2017 08:14pm)
poor snipa iss a little upset he got ban hammered for being an anti-Semite. go cluck around about (c)linton in a landslide and leave the proper discussion on issues that matter to people who understand issues and don't worship buzzfeed 2.0


I mean, I know you are semi-trolling all of the time, and deep down you know that Trump bullshits constantly and promised things in the campaign he won't go through on, but health care is a big issue. Trump has put himself in the impossible position of getting more people covered while appealing to his conservative base. Not gonna happen.

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I mean, I know you are semi-trolling all of the time, and deep down you know that Trump bullshits constantly and promised things in the campaign he won't go through on, but health care is a big issue. Trump has put himself in the impossible position of getting more people covered while appealing to his conservative base. Not gonna happen.

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its such a big issue that the last administration lied out the ass and relied on the "stupidity of the american voter" to get that monstrosity passed.

this ryancare is a worse version of it - ive been very clear about the do not want. but the cbo claiming less people will be insured because they wont be mandated anymore is disingenuous at best and more accurately, its #fakenews
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its such a big issue that the last administration lied out the ass and relied on the "stupidity of the american voter" to get that monstrosity passed.

this ryancare is a worse version of it - ive been very clear about the do not want. but the cbo claiming less people will be insured because they wont be mandated anymore is disingenuous at best and more accurately, its #fakenews


I guess the head of the CBO appointed by Republicans is part of the shadow government.

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I guess the head of the CBO appointed by Republicans is part of the shadow government.

http://i.imgur.com/mjEyDap.gif

a GW Bush lackey, yeah that's a solid argument. Liberals love GW now :wacko:
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