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Mar 7 2017 03:55pm
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 7 2017 04:26pm)
i'd avoid advice of bros

most of them will die of heart failure by 40 and have saggier tits than my grandma


keyboard warriors only live to be 39
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Mar 7 2017 04:27pm
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keyboard warriors only live to be 39


not trying to be mean my man, but it's not a good look and your heart is going to hate you for it
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Mar 7 2017 04:29pm
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 7 2017 03:26pm)
i'd avoid advice of bros

most of them will die of heart failure by 40 and have saggier tits than my grandma


lmfao this is so true
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Mar 7 2017 05:45pm
I agree with you.

When I said trainer/coach I meant someone who is a certified strength and conditioning coach with years of experience, with containing education.

I guess this will vary based on location so if you don't have a reputable gym to go then I understand using the other options suggested in this thread.

I train at a gym where the owner has worked with pro athletes and learned from those who have so he isn't an average joe with a basic pt cert.
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I agree with you.

When I said trainer/coach I meant someone who is a certified strength and conditioning coach with years of experience, with containing education.

I guess this will vary based on location so if you don't have a reputable gym to go then I understand using the other options suggested in this thread.

I train at a gym where the owner has worked with pro athletes and learned from those who have so he isn't an average joe with a basic pt cert.


It's safe to say that finding good information on fitness is like finding a needle in a haystack. Usually, someone with more certs and XP is going to be a better trainer/coach than someone without any certs at all, yet there are some truly legit gym bros out there who basically grew up lifting in their mom's basements. Actually, I got my start in my mom's basement, lifting and reading my Bible (a.k.a. Arnold's Encylopedia of Modern Bodybuilding), along with a book on vitamins. That was it, except for a stack of bodybuilding magazines. Back then most kids had no internet access, no interest in the library, and very few other lifters to follow and learn from. It was only later than I started to learn in a more formal, professional way. Even in high school, the guys I lifted with would just share secrets and theories. Looking back, I can say that I learned a lot of great information back then. I was wise enough to filter out bad ideas and test out questionable ideas.

Even now I find guys quoting from journals and bragging about their certs who spout absolute nonsense--just fashionable bullshit. Maybe that's the best tip we can give a new lifter: if it's fashionable, if it's for sale, there's a 99% chance it's useless bullshit. If it's testable, if it makes sense, or if the science is actually good and the experiments are well-designed, OK now we have a lead.

Where I think we agree is that it's really important to get the best possible information available on the level at which you're ready to receive it. I still learn new stuff all the time, and I'm absolutely fascinated by how mcuh good information is out there, waiting for support and confirmation :)

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Mar 7 2017 06:59pm
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Mar 7 2017 11:25pm
meh just skip to the drugs:
clen/t3/ec stack are all great
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Mar 8 2017 07:17am
Cals in vs cals out.

Dieting is simple.. A serving of good carbs, lean protein and veg for every meal. Snack with Greek yogurt or cottage cheese in between. Choose what ever you want for your lean protein and carb, just keep it healthy "instead of fries, do a sweet potato".

After awhile, it literally becomes second nature to eat this way, and any plate setup that defers from this will make your head explode in confusion.


Training is different for everyone, so I couldn't prescribe a workout for you, nor do I know how to.
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Mar 8 2017 07:21am
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 7 2017 05:27pm)
not trying to be mean my man, but it's not a good look and your heart is going to hate you for it


only if he keep doing roids
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Quote (Joeking @ Mar 8 2017 08:21am)
only if he keep doing roids


not just the roids, the workout regime. forcing your body to pump that hard

dude is gonna get afib when he's 35, just wait for it
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Mar 8 2017 07:39am
Quote (stuartg85 @ Mar 8 2017 08:27am)
not just the roids, the workout regime. forcing your body to pump that hard

dude is gonna get afib when he's 35, just wait for it


Well I know ppl that are over 50 and keep doing it just fine
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