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Mar 2 2017 09:32pm
http://www.livescience.com/57748-physicists-see-single-atoms-in-nanoparticle.html?utm_source=notification


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For the first time, scientists have seen the exact locations of more than 23,000 atoms in a particle that's small enough to fit inside the wall of a single cell.

A team led by Peter Ercius of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Jianwei Miao of UCLA used a scanning electron microscope to examine a particle that was made of iron (Fe) and platinum (Pt) that was only 8.4 nanometers across, they reported yesterday (Feb. 1) in the journal Nature. (A nanometer is a billionth of a meter, or 3.9 one-hundred-millionths of an inch.)


This could have incredible benefits to humanity, it could have applications in medicine, Structural Engineering, Aeronautics, and probably more.

Knowing the exact locations of say the atoms of cancer cells could change the way we approach treatments.

Or being able to analyze the structural integrity of a building or ship on an atomic level could reveal flaws that could lead to structural failure.

What other applications could there be?
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Mar 6 2017 01:52pm
Looks like we finally defeated Heisenberg!!!


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popsci...smh
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Mar 6 2017 02:54pm
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http://www.livescience.com/57748-physicists-see-single-atoms-in-nanoparticle.html?utm_source=notification




This could have incredible benefits to humanity, it could have applications in medicine, Structural Engineering, Aeronautics, and probably more.

Knowing the exact locations of say the atoms of cancer cells could change the way we approach treatments.

Or being able to analyze the structural integrity of a building or ship on an atomic level could reveal flaws that could lead to structural failure.

What other applications could there be?


One cannot know the exact location of atoms in cancer cells because an atom in simple terms makes up the cell lol.
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Mar 6 2017 03:07pm
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One cannot know the exact location of atoms in cancer cells because an atom in simple terms makes up the cell lol.


Yes they could, Maybe not yet, but the tech presents that possibility.

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The atoms in a cancer cell aren't invisible.

Atoms are Atoms, regardless of what molecules , chemical compounds, or even cells they make up.

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Mar 7 2017 06:28am
Quote (Ep0ch @ Mar 6 2017 01:07pm)
Yes they could, Maybe not yet, but the tech presents that possibility.

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The atoms in a cancer cell aren't invisible.

Atoms are Atoms, regardless of what molecules , chemical compounds, or even cells they make up.


Well atoms are atoms, unless you're talking about targeted gene therapy where you can find the oncogene/antioncogene that's coding for the mutation and making it stop, that's a possibility, but directly targeting an atom is far beyond anything. it's like nuclear fission then
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Mar 7 2017 07:03am
Targeted radiation therapy is hardly the same as nuclear fission.
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Mar 8 2017 01:00am
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Targeted radiation therapy is hardly the same as nuclear fission.


you see, we're not talking about radiation therapy, we were talking about the atoms and the exact locations, an atom makes up a cell, you'd risk destroying the whole cell by altering the atom, or worse, causing a full on new mutation that way.
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Mar 8 2017 04:09pm
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you see, we're not talking about radiation therapy, we were talking about the atoms and the exact locations, an atom makes up a cell, you'd risk destroying the whole cell by altering the atom, or worse, causing a full on new mutation that way.


Obviously research needs to be done, but to flat out deny that this type of treatment is impossible seems a little rash to me.

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After all, I was just speculating at fiends of study this could have potential impacts on.

What are your thoughts on my other thoughts?

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Mar 10 2017 05:42am
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Obviously research needs to be done, but to flat out deny that this type of treatment is impossible seems a little rash to me.

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After all, I was just speculating at fiends of study this could have potential impacts on.

What are your thoughts on my other thoughts?


Well apart from medicine, it's probably a wet dream for physicists, molecular chemists/biologists, and people that work on those colliders.

With this new technology there is always a new threat that emerges as well.

But seeing an atom for structural failure seems a bit too much as you probably wouldn't need to know the exact location of an atom to see what's wrong with a space ship, or i could be wrong lol.

But the applications could be weapons, diagnostics, and new technology most likely.
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