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Feb 23 2017 02:56am
vaal haste nerf

#blame hobopt
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Feb 23 2017 04:38am
Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ 23 Feb 2017 01:37)
Seems np, BF will still be OP

i say its dead. the aoe nerf most likely will kill it.

BF only felt good if you stacked a good amount of aoe, if that aint possible anymore due to diminishing returns, the skill looks pretty average all of a sudden.
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Feb 23 2017 04:41am
Wonder how this will effect warchief totems, the area was already nerfed last patch if i remember. Now its potentially going to take another hit to AOE.
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Feb 23 2017 04:53am
Quote (Brookzyboy @ Feb 23 2017 02:41am)
Wonder how this will effect warchief totems, the area was already nerfed last patch if i remember. Now its potentially going to take another hit to AOE.


AOE Math/Description that Rory posted is bologna and extremely confusing.

It's basically going to be quadratically updated. In other words, if you invest TOO MUCH you won't see those (2125% AOE builds) anymore [Well, you'll see them but the effect isn't going to be that great], but it also means you don't need to invest too much now. It's going to be about the same really

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Feb 23 2017 04:55am
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Feb 23 2017 05:20am
Quote (Brookzyboy @ 23 Feb 2017 13:41)
Wonder how this will effect warchief totems, the area was already nerfed last patch if i remember. Now its potentially going to take another hit to AOE.


Their damage will still be insane tho <3
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Feb 23 2017 09:34am
Quote (darki99 @ Feb 23 2017 05:38am)
i say its dead. the aoe nerf most likely will kill it.

BF only felt good if you stacked a good amount of aoe, if that aint possible anymore due to diminishing returns, the skill looks pretty average all of a sudden.


diminishing returns but restructured to be front loaded should be no problem, but we'll see exactly how they restructure it i guess
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Feb 23 2017 10:11am
Quote (Jampsodi @ Feb 23 2017 03:04am)
where are the goddamn vaal pact and ghost reaver nerfs?!


Chris has said a few times over the last couple years he doesn't want to touch Vaal Pact. Ghost Reaver I definitely think needs to be nerfed, since having 15k ES instantly refill becomes an immortal mechanic. That isn't the case when you have 7k HP, you can still get 1 shot or multishot in quick succession.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if they did nerf Vaal Pact anyway. Personally I really enjoy the Slayer leech mechanic I'd be happy if they turned Vaal Pact into something like that. Would still be broken when combined with Ghost Reaver, which should really be something more like "50% of your leech applies to Energy Shield"
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Feb 23 2017 10:55am
Quote (Brookzyboy @ Feb 23 2017 06:41am)
Wonder how this will effect warchief totems, the area was already nerfed last patch if i remember. Now its potentially going to take another hit to AOE.


I have always favored protectors with melee splash to warcheifs anyway.
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Feb 23 2017 11:32am
Speculation for most things seems pointless until we see some numbers
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