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Wow. You must have been a baby in 2000. Wireless internet didnt exist. Dsl didnt exist. Cable didnt exist
Most families did not have a home comp. The most popular comps at the time were gateways. Gaming computers and hardware did not exist.

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I was there. I played diablo 1 on bnet. It sucked hackers everywhere. (hey just like d2 today, here's why)

Because bnet classic was a service hosted through at&t.
The ways people are hacking in games like wc1/sc1/diablo1/diablo2 are all the same types of exploits.
Blizz has been aware of the issue since week 1 after bnet classics launch. Of this I am certain.
AT&T doesn't and never cared because the exploits don't cause any harm to the servers themselves, therefor are not a threat or a drain on resources to them.
Thus no action will ever be taken by AT&T to fix these exploits in their Battle.net

Thus bnet 2.0 was born. (didn't fix the problem though)

But that's another topic.

I actually had a comp in 1999 and internet unlike every other person i knew.

I know the only reason bnet survived was star craft one. Not diablo 1 or 2.

The only reason bnet existed at all was because of the tournament/competitive appeal of star craft.

This post was edited by Ep0ch on Mar 2 2017 07:49pm
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Quote (Ep0ch @ Mar 3 2017 03:32am)
Wow. You must have been a baby in 2000. Wireless internet didnt exist. Dsl didnt exist. Cable didnt exist
Most families did not have a home comp. The moast popular comp at the time was a gateway. Gaming computers and hardware did not exist.


I don't know where do you live, but ADSL was getting common in Estonia by the year 2000. With two service providers - Uninet & Eesti Telefon - there was some competition, so even a working student like myself could afford that (the price was about 500 kroons - a bit more than 30€ today - per month). Used telephone modem before. There were couple of direct cable connection providers as well, but their prices were way over my budget. :)

But it's getting pretty personal and ot...
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Quote (Chos3n @ Mar 2 2017 09:06pm)
I don't know where do you live, but ADSL was getting common in Estonia by the year 2000. With two service providers - Uninet & Eesti Telefon - there was some competition, so even a working student like myself could afford that (the price was about 500 kroons - a bit more than 30€ today - per month). Used telephone modem before. There were couple of direct cable connection providers as well, but their prices were way over my budget. :)

But it's getting pretty personal and ot...


population of estonia 2000, 1.397 million.

Population of america 2000, 282.2 million.

Population of earth 2000, 6.102 billion



0.000000000001% of Estonia's population in 2000 had internet. (if we hold the records to be true)
meanwhile, 43% of Americans had internet in 2000.

lol :rofl:

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I live in a place that has had a thing called Wimax for over almost a decade.
Most people in the world will not even know what that is.


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heres some off topic knowledge for ya.

In 2001, Bill Clinton was leaving office, and one of the last things he did, was induct China into the WTO. At the same time, his wife, was an attorney on retainer for the board of directors at Wal-Mart.
After the induction, Wal-Mart made billions of dollars by exploiting china's slave labor force and lack of regulations, as did hundreds of other companies.
The Clinton's no doubt took home hundreds of millions from this as well. (probably more)

The presidents wife, an Attorny on retainer, is not just going to sit by and not get any money while the people who soley employ her make ridiculously obscenely unfathomably large amounts of cash.

I ask you, neigh I ask the world, Where was the conflict of interest?

Bills decision at the END of his presidency not only effected America and Americans, but the entire world, and has resulted in the terminal illness of hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of exploited Chinese workers.

Not to mention repeated economic crisis in America and EU.

He and Hillary should be held accountable for their actions. Ignorance is no excuse.

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Population of america 2000, 282.2 million.


Looks like most of them did way better than ppl you knew as 52% of US adults used internet in 2000 (Pew Research Center: http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/internet-broadband/).

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0.000000000001% of Estonia's population in 2000 had internet. (if we hold the records to be true)


Sure they're true - 0.000000000001% of 1.397 million makes 0.00000001397 persons. That's probably my finger.

e: And now i'm truly out of this thread, feel free to continue...



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Looks like most of them did way better than ppl you knew as 52% of US adults used internet in 2000 (Pew Research Center: http://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/internet-broadband/).





Sure they're true - 0.000000000001% of 1.397 million makes 0.00000001397 persons. That's probably my finger.


I see what I did, easy mistake, just mixed up the order of some numbers.
I thought it didn't look right, but I never question math, I forgot to account for human error.

Care to correct the solution?

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(the answer is 258 people had internet in estonia @ 2000, AKA 2%.)

This post was edited by Ep0ch on Mar 2 2017 09:08pm
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Take your cockfight to a dark alley or each other's bedrooms.
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Lol what does AT&T have to do with anything. The exploits are in the code written by blizzard.
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This. There will be maybe 200 people left playing this game, if bots go down.


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Lol what does AT&T have to do with anything. The exploits are in the code written by blizzard.


The exploits are vulnerabilities in the servers hosting battle.net

Not the code of Diablo II.

You are mistaken.

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