You asked if it was hard, I said yes, and you're saying no?

Sound logic.

That aside, there's many boss mechanics on every fight that can wipe your raid if not paid attention to, hard DPS checks, and the fights are complicated.

Normal NH is harder than Heroic EN/ToV by a longshot. The only fight that is remarkably close is heroic Helya.

./facepalm

Normal is hard..... good one.

Compared to the other raids in this expansion, it is. There's a few bosses that are hard checks for your group.

Maybe easier with a guild group who was progressing beforehand (we cleared normal and 9/10 heroic), but I tried to pug normal and had serious issues with Tichondrius.

Pugs wont know how to coordinate without wiping over and over and even then its a pug. Someone will leave and a new person will join and youre back to square one. Thats the advantage of a guild group.

sometimes they cant even enter the instance,didnt have idea where is the enterance-- spaming "samon pls" after summon goes afk for ~10 min .. no way i pug raid only lfr

mhhmmm no

or maybe yes

I mean the wq does say the nighthold its their own fault for falling for something like this