at what lvl do 55 items start falling?
do I need to be 60? or 65?
been along time, and started back up. and don't want to well too soon and miss possible good sidedrops


ty for any info

Welling has completely changed since the old days. Now, all side drops are the same level (or lower) than the item welled.

edit to add: And i believe it is still the same. monster level 65+ drop level 55 items (someone can correct me if I am wrong)

edit again to add: And my experience (and that whispered around on the forum) say the best side drops occur when you are welling at or above your level. so welling lvl5 items at lvl15 etc

This post was edited by 2learyt on Jan 17 2017 09:55pm

Lvl 63 55s can drop

they will drop from level 55 items that you well. sometimes from 50 items as well

in terms of regular mobs, you'll have to be fighting level 65 monsters. so level 65 at a whistle / regular mob. and somewhere around 60+ for evils (since their monster level is higher)

ty everybody

Was pretty much already answered, but just for a little clarification:

Monster levels are not all the same, so there is some variation below and above your character level. When you are solo this should be a subtle variation, but when you are in a group, the variation should be a bit higher. Either way, you'll start to see the first level 55s dropping (usually from EPs since normal mobs tend to drop higher tiers infrequently) at level 63 (driver level), but this doesn't mean all the EPs you are fighting have a chance to drop level 55s, so if you want more of the EPs to have a chance at dropping level 55s, you'll want to level up to around 65ish. From my experience it doesn't actually increase your odds of getting level 55s by leveling a lot more, even though theoretically it should cause all mobs to have a chance of dropping level 55s. If you'd like my speculation on why that is, feel free to PM me.

If you are down a trapdoor, the mobs will gain +1 - 5 levels (per trapdoor) and so consequently you will have a chance to get level 55 drops from these monsters at a lower level. So with a +5 level trapdoor and a level 58 driver, it is already possible to get level 55s. It is also possible to be, as an example, level 52 and go down 4 trapdoors (+1, +4, +3, +2) and get level 55s to drop. Note that although your level will be lower, killing EPs down that many trapdoors will be a lot harder than if you were level 65, so don't think of it as an easier route for obtaining endgame drops.

As an aside, monster difficulty does not increase the max tier of drops from my testing. So running a +% monster difficulty map at a lower level will not produce higher level drops.

Hope this helps... and also hope it wasn't too much info

THey can start drop at lvl 60 (or lower if you're in a td)
We've had 55s drop at lvl 43 or something but i lost count on td's

Whistle lowest I've seen in 62 or 63. Basically what Niclas said at 60 though is what I believe. Eps higher chance and tds much lower as said

This is a trick question. The answer isn't a level at all. Or at least not entirely.
The answer is they start dropping when you play in a 5 person group and you explore the maze (yes, at lvl 62-63+).

If you're soloing, or even grouped up but whistling, you may go several climbs (or more) believing that lvl 55 items actually don't exist and that they are simply products of an overcaffinated mind.

Nah they still start drop at lvl 60 from eps not 62+