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Jan 15 2017 06:22am
Okai HI :wub:

I have a question

all charge barbs on leaderboards use 3 of the same gems


Bane of the stricken
Esoteric Alteration

And final

Bane of the trapped

i made some calculation with standoff. cause i dont know if standoff works as i think it works

My question is Wreath Lightning Gem should be better than bane of the trapped accoring to the weapon

The bonus effect from wreath lightning is 25% movement speed and standoff increase the charge damage by 250% of the movement speed so calculated

25 * 2.5 = 62.5% damage increase while a very very high leveled bane of the trapped is 45% damage increase

WIth all by buff

Default movement = 25
Bersker = 20
Sprint = 40
Wreathlightning = 25

that is 110 Movement speed increase

110 * 2.5 = 275% extra charge damage
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Jan 15 2017 09:27am
Ya for real
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Jan 15 2017 09:48am
Quote (FlowiZ @ Jan 15 2017 07:22am)
Okai HI :wub:

I have a question

all charge barbs on leaderboards use 3 of the same gems


Bane of the stricken
Esoteric Alteration

And final

Bane of the trapped

i made some calculation with standoff. cause i dont know if standoff works as i think it works

My question is Wreath Lightning Gem should be better than bane of the trapped accoring to the weapon

The bonus effect from wreath lightning is 25% movement speed and standoff increase the charge damage by 250% of the movement speed so calculated

25 * 2.5 = 62.5% damage increase while a very very high leveled bane of the trapped is 45% damage increase

WIth all by buff

Default movement = 25
Bersker = 20
Sprint = 40
Wreathlightning = 25

that is 110 Movement speed increase

110 * 2.5 = 275% extra charge damage


The 25% move speed is additive with the other sources. So the overall damage increase is less than 25%. It's closer to 15%.

Bane of the trapped is a straight multiplier. So you can compare.

85*2.5*1.45

Vs. 110*2.5
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Jan 15 2017 11:22am
Quote (Laminate @ 15 Jan 2017 16:48)
The 25% move speed is additive with the other sources. So the overall damage increase is less than 25%. It's closer to 15%.

Bane of the trapped is a straight multiplier. So you can compare.

85*2.5*1.45

Vs. 110*2.5



^

This is also reason why you see most CDR heavy builds cap at 60-65% cdr


Trapped is the highest flat damage gems and the wrath wouldn't be as reliable damage source
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Jan 15 2017 12:31pm
Quote (Laminate @ 15 Jan 2017 16:48)
The 25% move speed is additive with the other sources. So the overall damage increase is less than 25%. It's closer to 15%.

Bane of the trapped is a straight multiplier. So you can compare.

85*2.5*1.45

Vs. 110*2.5


Thanks
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Jan 15 2017 01:20pm
I'm expert at this game paragon level 3000 mag if you need anything. I'm on Asia HC
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Jan 15 2017 09:14pm
this is because no one can think for themselves
you will find examples of this in all games
look at league of legends for example
95% of the player base will play the same champs and have opinions that certain other champs suck based on nothing at all besides they are copying other people.
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Quote (JVMorrow @ 16 Jan 2017 06:14)
this is because no one can think for themselves
you will find examples of this in all games
look at league of legends for example
95% of the player base will play the same champs and have opinions that certain other champs suck based on nothing at all besides they are copying other people.


It only makes sense to play the most efficient way in a farming/economy simulator most of these rpgs are.
Same thing with botting. There's no reason to do manually what you can automate.

D3 has no room for theorycrafting so you might as well copy one of the few builds because if you don't, you are not welcome in a group.
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Jan 16 2017 04:04am
Quote (cjlove90 @ Jan 15 2017 03:20pm)
I'm expert at this game paragon level 3000 mag if you need anything. I'm on Asia HC



3000 on all chars tho?
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Jan 16 2017 10:19am
all these comp[lex math formulas are proof that d3 > poe !!
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