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Oct 27 2016 11:49am
Holy! :o if this turns out to be true...

Dark energy and baryogenesis, i can't really think of two bigger problems with the standard view of physics, well other than quantum gravity. This seems to be the first of three big steps though, sorting particle physics, sorting quantum physics, ToE.
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Oct 27 2016 12:44pm
Article say "may explain" - so really it means that it explains nothing - just that they are aware of the questions.

For example, we don’t understand dark matter, the mysterious substance that makes up 84 per cent of the universe’s mass. Nor why there is more matter than antimatter. Nor why the universe grew so rapidly in its youth during a period known as inflation. The list continues.

So something is still missing from the standard model. “Presumably we need some new particles,” says Mikhail Shaposhnikov at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne. “The question is, how many new particles do we need?”



That's not explaining anything - it's just saying "hey lets add some more things and smash them together and call it science"



#UniverseExplained

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Quote (card_sultan @ Oct 27 2016 01:44pm)
Article say "may explain" - so really it means that it explains nothing - just that they are aware of the questions.

For example, we don’t understand dark matter, the mysterious substance that makes up 84 per cent of the universe’s mass. Nor why there is more matter than antimatter. Nor why the universe grew so rapidly in its youth during a period known as inflation. The list continues.

So something is still missing from the standard model. “Presumably we need some new particles,” says Mikhail Shaposhnikov at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne. “The question is, how many new particles do we need?”



That's not explaining anything - it's just saying "hey lets add some more things and smash them together and call it science"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pCwqq4QUmBU/VL3e-FQnO5I/AAAAAAABqSs/Yx9KwGChauQ/w506-h285/M47c7qg.gif

#UniverseExplained


even when everyone around you is saying "it might" and not claiming to be all knowing gods and just people doing research in hopes of answers all you are hearing is "they are trying to trick me".

such a dangerous mindset.
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Oct 27 2016 01:39pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 27 2016 01:15pm)
even when everyone around you is saying "it might" and not claiming to be all knowing gods and just people doing research in hopes of answers all you are hearing is "they are trying to trick me".

such a dangerous mindset.


lol this. the article is about as tentative of an announcement it can be and that idiot cherry picks the whole thing just to confirm a bias it's not implying.... pathetic.
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Article say "may explain" - so really it means that it explains nothing - just that they are aware of the questions.

For example, we don’t understand dark matter, the mysterious substance that makes up 84 per cent of the universe’s mass. Nor why there is more matter than antimatter. Nor why the universe grew so rapidly in its youth during a period known as inflation. The list continues.

So something is still missing from the standard model. “Presumably we need some new particles,” says Mikhail Shaposhnikov at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne. “The question is, how many new particles do we need?”



That's not explaining anything - it's just saying "hey lets add some more things and smash them together and call it science"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pCwqq4QUmBU/VL3e-FQnO5I/AAAAAAABqSs/Yx9KwGChauQ/w506-h285/M47c7qg.gif

#UniverseExplained

This is how physics works half the time, it's like the higgs boson we didn't detect or discover it at first we just knew there was a lot of stuff missing that it could explain so we theorized it might exist then discovered it later

It's often a lot easier if you know what you're looking for


Made me find this, interesting stuff, possibly grand theory without quantum mechanics and it seems to work!
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7833833-the-grand-unified-theory-of-classical-physics

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even when everyone around you is saying "it might" and not claiming to be all knowing gods and just people doing research in hopes of answers all you are hearing is "they are trying to trick me".

such a dangerous mindset.


when the actual scientist say "Presumably" - it means "Were guessing" - I'm not saying that it might not lead somewhere, i'm just saying the The title on this pop news website is just clickbait
because they haven't actually solved anything, but i guess the title "Scientist's Presumes stuff!" wouldn't be so attractive.



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Oct 27 2016 10:48pm
This is interesting. I am ashamedly not caught up in current theoretical or experimental Physics.
Whether or not it will turn out to be anything :dunno:

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Oct 28 2016 11:39am
Quote (card_sultan @ Oct 27 2016 06:18pm)
when the actual scientist say "Presumably" - it means "Were guessing" - I'm not saying that it might not lead somewhere, i'm just saying the The title on this pop news website is just clickbait
because they haven't actually solved anything, but i guess the title "Scientist's Presumes stuff!" wouldn't be so attractive.


Your first valid point, congratulations card
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Oct 28 2016 12:38pm
Whoa! Are you saying the theoretical physicists are only working on presumptions we can't currently test in anything other than rendered models?

I for one am shocked.
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