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Oct 13 2016 06:51pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 13 2016 09:39am)
Economically they're extremely similar. Like just Google a list of their economic opinions.




Virtually his entire platform is pro-corporation anti-employee.


Are you looking at her private or public positions? Because all you have to do is follow the money like Bernie talked about. Her private donor speeches have leaked now and you get to hear what she got paid $150+ million dollars to speak in small crowds of wall street mega-elites. This amount of money isn't for her speaking skills because compared to Bernie and Trump she cannot draw a crowd. People cared about the message Bernie had and tens of thousands would come to see him and the same goes for Trump. Hillary is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per speech to talk to a small crowd of wall street donors because of pay for play. This is exactly what both Trump and Bernie are against. Privately she talks about open borders(something Bernie and Trump are against), supporting the TPP(something Bernie and Trump against), putting 100,000 troops on the ground in Syria (something Bernie and Trump are against) how we cannot vet refugees (something Trump talks about frequently) giving favors to the wall street super elite and many more positions that directly contradict her public policy.

Her policy of no-fly zones in Syria will start war if Americans shoot down Russian jets.
It's strange to me that the democratic party is now the party that gives favors to wall street, is open borders, and is pro war.

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 13 2016 06:52pm
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Oct 13 2016 07:03pm
Clinton:

  • Favors raising the federal minimum wage to $12
  • Advocates paid maternal leave
  • Against cuts to public spending
  • In favor of raising tax rates for corporations
  • In favor of reducing tax rates for lower and middle class citizens
  • Advoates mandating time-and-a-half for overtime hours
  • Advocates gender pay equality
  • Advocates increasing capital-gains tax
  • Supports labor unions
  • Advocates increasing estate tax rate
  • Favors increased pension payments
  • Favors eliminating the possibility of using offshore tax havens and loopholes
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Oct 13 2016 07:05pm
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Clinton:

  • Favors raising the federal minimum wage to $12
  • Advocates paid maternal leave
  • Against cuts to public spending
  • In favor of raising tax rates for corporations
  • In favor of reducing tax rates for lower and middle class citizens
  • Advoates mandating time-and-a-half for overtime hours
  • Advocates gender pay equality
  • Advocates increasing capital-gains tax
  • Supports labor unions
  • Advocates increasing estate tax rate
  • Favors increased pension payments
  • Favors eliminating the possibility of using offshore tax havens and loopholes


You are posting her public positions and ignoring what her private donors pay her to do and what she says where it counts. This information is readily available if you want to learn.
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You are posting her public positions and ignoring what her private donors pay her to do and what she says where it counts. This information is readily available if you want to learn.


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Oct 13 2016 07:10pm
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https://archive.org/details/HRCPaidSpeechesFlags

for a video about the details

though I think you have a bias against the person who made the video so I don't think you will watch it. I think it's best to learn from people you don't like or don't agree with which is why I try to privately discuss with many people I don't agree with on policy.
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Oct 13 2016 07:32pm
Quote (majorblood @ Oct 13 2016 09:10pm)
https://archive.org/details/HRCPaidSpeechesFlags

for a video about the details
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuLtbcclcfM
though I think you have a bias against the person who made the video so I don't think you will watch it. I think it's best to learn from people you don't like or don't agree with which is why I try to privately discuss with many people I don't agree with on policy.


I'll check it out, thanks.

I actually like Stefan Molyneux a lot, even though I disagree with him on virtually everything.

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you're removing a source of baseline funding for the govt which effectively makes it unstable, one bad year and many govt services go underfunded


That's not even remotely close to accurate. In the US states that predominantly fund their governments through sales taxes (like Texas & Florida), they have far more stable revenue streams than states that rely on the income tax (like New Jersey). When the last recession hit, NJ had a terrible time making up for lost revenues from their bankers. Texas had no such problem with consumption.

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In my view, flat tax is strong corporation favoritism.


Which ones are getting the special favors?
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Which ones are getting the special favors?


So the alternative is a progressive tax. So the ones who would have a higher tax under a Democratic president are the ones.
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Oct 13 2016 08:02pm
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So the alternative is a progressive tax. So the ones who would have a higher tax under a Democratic president are the ones.


I don't see how this answered my question.
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Oct 13 2016 08:40pm
Quote (majorblood @ Oct 13 2016 07:10pm)
https://archive.org/details/HRCPaidSpeechesFlags

for a video about the details
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuLtbcclcfM
though I think you have a bias against the person who made the video so I don't think you will watch it. I think it's best to learn from people you don't like or don't agree with which is why I try to privately discuss with many people I don't agree with on policy.


Molyneux is one of the greatest cult leaders of our time
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