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Sep 20 2016 10:23am
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pennsylvania-school-cafeteria-worker-quits-over-lunch-shaming-policy/

Schools refuses lunches for children with overdue lunch bills. Since instituting the policy the lunch program debt has gone from a fluctuating 60k$-100k$ down to 20k$. So it's undoubtedly effective.

A second aspect to consider is that children who are expected to pay for lunch have been deemed by the state financially able to, so this excludes the incredibly poor who have their lunches paid for in full. This is really just effecting people who pay a partial total for lunches or full price for lunches, which isn't to say they can strictly afford it as the state's formulas are imperfect.

More generally should a state entity ever practice debt collection by involving children? An alternate example that seems socially exceptable is late fees on public library rentals, children aren't allowed to rent more until they pay, but books =/= food.

In my opinion this is abhorrent, and potentially a situation for a bully to latch on to. As someone who lives with a teacher I know the terrible response rates that parents have to calls or materials sent home, sadly that's the only way. The rock and a hard place here is that most parents are under-involved in their children's education so issues like this fall way off their radar. (no i dont have stats, im drawing on anecdotal experience)
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Sep 20 2016 10:25am
How will they learn to stop being poor if we don't?
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Sep 20 2016 10:26am
Agreed, poor people should just kill themselves, if their support beam could hold them
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Sep 20 2016 10:28am
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Agreed, poor people should just kill themselves, if their support beam could hold them


wanting people to kill themselves is a step to becoming a serial killer
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Sep 20 2016 10:30am
If we pay for their food it just incentivizes them to stay poor when they get older. If anything we should tax the poor a higher percentage so they have more incentive to make more money.
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Sep 20 2016 10:31am
i hate the word shaming. that is all.
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Sep 20 2016 10:32am
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How will they learn to stop being poor if we don't?


I think the underlying issue is the treatment of the child, not even the poorness of the family. I names the thread that in mock of the fat shaming threads.
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Sep 20 2016 10:34am
Quote (thesnipa @ 20 Sep 2016 08:32)
I think the underlying issue is the treatment of the child, not even the poorness of the family. I names the thread that in mock of the fat shaming threads.


For sure.

I mean,essentially, if you have a policy that causes a child to go hungry in order to save a buck, fuck you. That seems reasonable to me, at least.

This post was edited by AiNedeSpelCzech on Sep 20 2016 10:34am
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Sep 20 2016 10:34am
Feed the kids but immediately send repo men to the parent(s)* place of work* (ideally) or home and liquidate/rid them of any luxury items that should be used to feed the poor starving children (smartphone, leased automobile, ipad, multiple laptops, jewelry/watch, etc)

*if applicable

e: and after liquidating the parent(s) excessive items for cash to pay for the kids meals at school, put them (the parent(s)) in a stockade in the town square and pelt them with rotten eggs as an example to not be a loser who can't feed their kids!!!!!!!

This post was edited by excellence on Sep 20 2016 10:42am
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Sep 20 2016 10:38am
good to teach kids there's no such thing as a free meal

if we give them free food soon they'll start demanding free shelter, free water etc.
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