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Sep 12 2016 09:15pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Sep 12 2016 06:45pm)
yeah cant have competition with lousy public schools, people might be free to choose better alternatives!


that's a little too free market capitalism for me... i don't like things that work
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Sep 12 2016 10:02pm
Trump was such a bad student at his charter school, they didn't want him and his father had to take him out of it and enroll him in military school.
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Sep 13 2016 07:18am
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The existence of charter schools is a huge problem for the public education system. They need to be eliminated and the resources put into public education.


Yeah! Reinforce the unaccountable, failing government system so it can continue its primary role of supporting the Democrat war machine!
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Sep 13 2016 07:19am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 13 2016 09:18am)
Yeah! Reinforce the unaccountable, failing government system so it can continue its primary role of supporting the Democrat war machine!


Ok

Anyway,
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End any policy imperative that demands teaching to test. Combine a real reform initiative to address the worst protectionism of teacher's unions while allowing collective bargaining to secure the legitimate standing of teachers. And end charter schools with a recommitment to public education for all in America. It's not fair to ask parents in charters to risk the moderate gains made unless real reform is undertaken in public education. But right now charter schools are effectively lifeboats, and the American educational as a whole is a sinking ship. This is not a wholistic solution that anything, and it is, in the long-run, an abandonment of the idea that America gives every child the opportunity of a viable education.


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Sep 13 2016 07:46am
it's not really equality of opportunity if some children get a better mandatory education than others, based on the chance of them being allocated a place in a charter school from a lottery.

they compete with public schools and much like private schools they impose a significant cream skimming effect that tends to attract the brightest students. it's been proven that classes with more intelligent students lift up their peers academically, which is one of the reasons public schools tend to do so badly. they get robbed of their best students.

theoretically, every school being private with a voucher covering the full cost of education given to each student is the most efficient education system as it totally negates the cream skimming effect. it's unrealistic though

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Sep 13 2016 08:19am
some people dont have have it (i means money)
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Sep 13 2016 08:30am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 13 2016 03:19pm)
some people dont have have it (i means money)


charter schools are free youssef
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Sep 13 2016 08:39am
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charter schools are free youssef


"youssef" yourself and deeply.

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Nb; btw those schools seems pretty nice way to fracture even more the social profile of schools in that country


==> YES to charter schools in usa !

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Sep 13 2016 05:34pm
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it's not really equality of opportunity if some children get a better mandatory education than others, based on the chance of them being allocated a place in a charter school from a lottery.

they compete with public schools and much like private schools they impose a significant cream skimming effect that tends to attract the brightest students. it's been proven that classes with more intelligent students lift up their peers academically, which is one of the reasons public schools tend to do so badly. they get robbed of their best students.

theoretically, every school being private with a voucher covering the full cost of education given to each student is the most efficient education system as it totally negates the cream skimming effect. it's unrealistic though


WTF kind of delusional world do you live in?

If a parent is engaged enough to want thier child to go to a charter school, they probably put in more effort than the bulk of the people who send thier kids to public schools.

Taking out the "smart" kids from public schools doesn't make the curriculum and better or worse.

Realistically, having "smart" kids around isn't going to make the children of less engaged parents who send thier kids to public schools with uninterested teachers who provide an education of inferior value any smarter.

I'm legit starting to think you are crazy indoctrinated or just trolling me at this point because no one could be that dense to miss the entire point of schooling.

Also, I have a question for you.

If you got good grades in one class in college, did the "bad" students in that same class get a better grade because of your effort?

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Sep 13 2016 05:47pm
Well most charter schools are doing very badly. A few are doing okay...they are the exceptions though.

Meanwhile public school quality has been increasing overall.

If people vote Democrat education will continue to improve.
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