Vegas is now giving

Clinton -185
Trump +160

which is equivalent to about 65% chance for Clinton, 35% chance for Trump.

This is down from about a 70%/30% or 75%/25% race a couple weeks ago.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Sep 12 2016 11:11am

Doesn't it usually tighten as the race progresses?

Either way she's still got a great lead among important groups like hispanics, women, and african americans.

Not usually.



Yes, her 65% favorite is still reasonably strong, but easily up for grabs.

Given the swings in public opinion we're seeing in polls and the HIGH unfavorability ratings both candidates have, im convinced that its going to be close until the Debates are done. I feel its a disservice to the public that we don't have debates yet anyways, as both candidates are firing off shots on a daily basis. But given the bad news cycles both candidates have faced i cant say im surprised we haven't had any. Still if we don't get 3+ debates IDK what will happen. IMO trump comes out ahead the fewer debates there are.

Easily up for grabs? Not by trump. lol

That's what happens when you're a corrupt, lying candidate who calls a large portion of Americans 'deplorables' then passes out in 77* weather amidst rumors of poor health conditions

So that's why Trump plummeted after the primary.

I'm still pretty sure Hillary will win, and I'm guessing after the first debate I'll be even more confident.

forget the debates, what we really need is an epic rap battle to cover this election

A Cage match? Or did you have something else in mind?