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Any shooters out there?

Currently building a 7.62x39 ar15 pistol ATM
Cant wait for the end result!
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Wow that sounds really gay
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Wow that sounds really gay


even gayer wasting time commenting on something you have no interest in.
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even gayer wasting time commenting on something you have no interest in.

have to agree
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Any shooters out there?

Currently building a 7.62x39 ar15 pistol ATM
Cant wait for the end result!


Wtf is this exactly? Interested
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Wtf is this exactly? Interested


It is pretty much a short barrel rifle... But for a SBR to be legal you have to pay 200$ for the tax stamp and wait close to a year. So you can make a SBR without it "technically" being a SBR...
Pretty much replace the standard shoulder stock with a brace. Firing it from the shoulder would make it a SBR so its called a pistol because you dont fire from the shoulder, you would fire it from the wrist like a pistol.
its a way to make a SBR but stay Legal without the tax stamp basically... IMO really stupid but whatever.

7.62x39 is the Round that is normally shot out of an Ak47, its larger then the standard ar15 round (223/5.56)
So im basically making a ar15 that will shoot the ak47 round with a total length of about 10" long

Something like this when finished


This post was edited by Texecutioner on Aug 20 2016 04:22pm
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It is pretty much a short barrel rifle... But for a SBR to be legal you have to pay 200$ for the tax stamp and wait close to a year. So you can make a SBR without it "technically" being a SBR...
Pretty much replace the standard shoulder stock with a brace. Firing it from the shoulder would make it a SBR so its called a pistol because you dont fire from the shoulder, you would fire it from the wrist like a pistol.
its a way to make a SBR but stay Legal without the tax stamp basically... IMO really stupid but whatever.

7.62x39 is the Round that is normally shot out of an Ak47, its larger then the standard ar15 round (223/5.56)
So im basically making a ar15 that will shoot the ak47 round with a total length of about 10" long

Something like this when finished
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/02/22/2726199_02_ar_15_pistol_7_62x39_640.jpg


What state are you in? Here we have laws about barrel length and caliber restrictions on pistols. This would most likely be put in the same category as a sawed off shotgun here, because it fires a rifle round and not a pistol round.
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What state are you in? Here we have laws about barrel length and caliber restrictions on pistols. This would most likely be put in the same category as a sawed off shotgun here, because it fires a rifle round and not a pistol round.


They have restrictions here too, A short barrel rifle or SBR is illigal unless your have a 200$ tax stamp and you wait about half year.
That being said there are ways around it to make it legal without the tax stamp. For example What makes a Short barrel rifle different from a pistol ar? pretty much only the stock... A SBR would have a shoulder stock as a pistol would not be allowed a shoulder stock or would be allowed to fired from the shoulder.
with a pistol you have to have a brace of some sort because you will be shooting it more like a pistol and not from the shoulder. Notice in the picture the brace? it wraps around your forearm gives you some stability because you would be firing from your wrist instead of shoulder. am i making any sense? In Texas that AR15 is legal its calssified as a AR pistol.

Also down here its almost the same with a shotgun, There is a few videos of certain shotguns that have a shorter barrel length but have a impact type brace instead of a stock that would make it legal. same concept tho firing from the shoulder would make any SBR illigal without proper paperwork.

This post was edited by Texecutioner on Aug 21 2016 10:44am
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It is pretty much a short barrel rifle... But for a SBR to be legal you have to pay 200$ for the tax stamp and wait close to a year. So you can make a SBR without it "technically" being a SBR...
Pretty much replace the standard shoulder stock with a brace. Firing it from the shoulder would make it a SBR so its called a pistol because you dont fire from the shoulder, you would fire it from the wrist like a pistol.
its a way to make a SBR but stay Legal without the tax stamp basically... IMO really stupid but whatever.

7.62x39 is the Round that is normally shot out of an Ak47, its larger then the standard ar15 round (223/5.56)
So im basically making a ar15 that will shoot the ak47 round with a total length of about 10" long

Something like this when finished
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/02/22/2726199_02_ar_15_pistol_7_62x39_640.jpg


tax stamps no longer take a year
sbr came in 6 months
suppressor came in 7 months
you don't have to worry about uneducated range masters or LEO questioning the arm brace since you have the actual papers and no future complications if for some reason they decide the arm brace is considered a stock
plus you get way better stock options
arm brace imo is really ugly and bulky
gun laws are serious and come with serious consequences when broken
I think people should respect the laws and should avoid finding ways around it

This post was edited by itzpookiie on Aug 22 2016 07:52am
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Quote (itzpookiie @ Aug 22 2016 08:40am)
tax stamps no longer take a year
sbr came in 6 months
suppressor came in 7 months
you don't have to worry about uneducated range masters or LEO questioning the arm brace since you have the actual papers and no future complications if for some reason they decide the arm brace is considered a stock
plus you get way better stock options
arm brace imo is really ugly and bulky
gun laws are serious and come with serious consequences when broken
I think people should respect the laws and should avoid finding ways around it


Your right a tax stamp is the way to go.
Paperwork is in order and will be sent off once the rifle is complete.
I agree as far as respecting the laws... But an AR pistol breaks no laws with a brace...
If a LEO is uneducated and decides to tell me a brace is a stock then it will be a big pain in the ass but in the long run i will win the case if there is any.. As long as im not breaking any laws i cannot be charged with one... A "brace" is not a stock.. And there will be a no stocks anywhere in sight for case of argument.
Matter fact i dont even plan on taking the thing out until i can actually put a stock on it and take it to the range.
If a Rangemaster is uneducated then i will simply just leave the range because there is no point in arguing.. There range...There rules.
Personally i like the sig brace for a AR pistol... its kind of one of those guns that is just really fun to shoot... kind of like the Intratec AB10... except the AR isnt ugly as hell and doent misfeed left and right but either way its fun as hell to shoot when it actually shoots lol

I respect and agree with what you said and im very away of the consequence of getting cought with a SBR... But a AR pistol is an AR pistol... They sell them over the counter with normal 4473 and no required stamp because its LEGAL.

This post was edited by Texecutioner on Aug 22 2016 07:18pm
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