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Aug 22 2016 12:39am
Quote (dro94 @ Aug 21 2016 08:32pm)
They're not completely independent, but Belgium or any other member state isn't completely independent from the overreaching EU, is it? But you'd still consider it a country wouldn't you? Put your own views into perspective, you are not using very sound reasoning.


So, it comes down to what degree of independence you consider sufficient for it to deserve independent representation in the Olympic Games and other such events.

Even so, this doesn't really make sense to me. Places like Greenland, Åland, Gibraltar and the Faroe Islands have a much higher degree of independence than Wales does. Hell, they're even formally treated as sovereign states by the UN. And yet I don't hear any people defending their right to be represented independently. I think in the end, the current rule is fairly simple: if you, as a country/region/province/state, are part of a larger body that's also considered to be a country/state, your athletes will represent said larger body in international sports events.

Honestly, I think this would be a non-issue to everyone if it weren't for football, where the UK's four countries have always had their own respective national teams, and nobody has ever done anything about this because of sheer reverence.
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Aug 22 2016 03:42am
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So, it comes down to what degree of independence you consider sufficient for it to deserve independent representation in the Olympic Games and other such events.

Even so, this doesn't really make sense to me. Places like Greenland, Åland, Gibraltar and the Faroe Islands have a much higher degree of independence than Wales does. Hell, they're even formally treated as sovereign states by the UN. And yet I don't hear any people defending their right to be represented independently. I think in the end, the current rule is fairly simple: if you, as a country/region/province/state, are part of a larger body that's also considered to be a country/state, your athletes will represent said larger body in international sports events.

Honestly, I think this would be a non-issue to everyone if it weren't for football, where the UK's four countries have always had their own respective national teams, and nobody has ever done anything about this because of sheer reverence.


Does it have to make sense to you babe?
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Aug 22 2016 03:45am
Quote (dro94 @ Aug 22 2016 11:42am)
Does it have to make sense to you babe?


To me personally? No, it doesn't.
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Aug 22 2016 03:46am
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To me personally? No, it doesn't.


Well there you go, we are 4 countries :)
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Aug 22 2016 03:49am
Quote (dro94 @ Aug 22 2016 11:46am)
Well there you go, we are 4 countries :)


I've never said you aren't. :)
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Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Aug 2016 21:03)
I think the argument is a bit more simple, but I also don't know your laws 100%. Can any of the United States vote so succeed and then do so without the expressed consent of the US govt? no. Can any of the Belgium states do the same? no. Can scotland vote again to leave the UK because of how dumb Brexit is? yup.


Our main political party would jizz in its pant just at the thought of it.
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Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Aug 22 2016 04:27am)
Our main political party would jizz in its pant just at the thought of it.


we have a few states that would be the same. Texax for sure
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Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Aug 22 2016 12:27pm)
Our main political party would jizz in its pant just at the thought of it.


nah, too busy banning burkinis
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Quote (howtodisappearcompletely @ 22 Aug 2016 13:18)
nah, too busy banning burkinis



And limiting free speech.
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And limiting free speech.


and installing hidden cameras in Milquet's bathroom for coercion purposes
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