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When will people like the OP finally get mad about being duped over and over again :lol:

It's like they think breitbart is real or something.


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The battle will rage until only the righteous remain.


More like self-righteous :lol:

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wtf are you doing here rand?

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Aug 4 2016 12:56pm
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"hostages" lol, even down to the word the false narrative is used.

these idiots wandered into Iranian waters as far as ive heard, legally detaining someone with no physical harm and a meal =/= hostages.


Saeed Abedini - Christian pastor, you should only need one guess to know what his crime was.
Jason Rezaian - Washington post reporter whose crime was holding a letter to Obama with an offer to assist a Iran/us relation committee
Amir Hekmati - Former marine accused of espionage.

Hardly wandering into Iran aimlessly, your referring to the 10 Americans who floated into Iran water as frenchie posted above about sometime in 2013.

Since the payment Iran has arrested Siamak Namazi and his 80 year old father seemingly to hold ransom for the remaining 1.2 billion owed in interest on the 400 million.

If the payment wasn't a ransom it seems dangerously close to being one, why not send the money on an unrelated day to the prisoners being released ...?

Another interesting side note is the Clinton administration had previously claimed 400million of lawsuits by Americans against the Islamic Republic had been settled with the 400 million held in trust.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html

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Saeed Abedini - Christian pastor, you should only need one guess to know what his crime was.
Jason Rezaian - Washington post reporter whose crime was holding a letter to Obama with an offer to assist a Iran/us relation committee
Amir Hekmati - Former marine accused of espionage.

Hardly wandering into Iran aimlessly, your referring to the 10 Americans who floated into Iran water as frenchie posted above about sometime in 2013.

Since the payment Iran has arrested Siamak Namazi and his 80 year old father seemingly to hold ransom for the remaining 1.2 billion owed in interest on the 400 million.

If the payment wasn't a ransom it seems dangerously close to being one, why not send the money on an unrelated day to the hostages being released ...?

Another interesting side note is the Clinton administration had previously claimed 400million of lawsuits by Americans against the Islamic Republic had been settled with the 400 million held in trust.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html


ahhh then my mind crossed wires. i assumed the money coincided with the day the sailors were released. TBH i haven't read up on it beyond headlines because its simply too early to get reliable info IMO.

in either case the timing does seem suspicious, if it were the same week i'd brush it off but down to the day is fishy.
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Saeed Abedini - Christian pastor, you should only need one guess to know what his crime was.
Jason Rezaian - Washington post reporter whose crime was holding a letter to Obama with an offer to assist a Iran/us relation committee
Amir Hekmati - Former marine accused of espionage.


the first one tried to proceed a conversion on innocent iranians citizens (he tried to brainwash them with christianity lol) and the 2 others were spies.
thanks 400 millions, they got lucky to get out alive (and not "feet first" as french expression)

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the first one tried to proceed a conversion on innocent iranians citizens (he tried to brainwash them with christianity lol) and the 2 others were spies.
thanks 400 millions, they got lucky to get out alive (and not "feet first" as french expression)


Debatable that the two where spies, holding a letter offering to use his experience in Iran to assist friendlier relation hardly seem espionage, assuming Iran has friendly intentions in their relation with the USA. Couldn't find any specific charges against the marine.

The problem I would have as an American is the 400million owed to Iran was supposedly spent on settling lawsuits against Iran in 2000.

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again lets review:
Jan 17th, 2016, four American hostages were released by the Iranian gov't. also on this date $400m in foreign cash was secretly airlifted to Tehran on an unmarked cargo plane.
later this date, Pres Obama gave a press conference about the hostage release. He did not mention the $400m payment to Iran. Iran negotiators wanted cash so that they could "have something tangible to show in return for the release."



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Debatable that the two where spies, holding a letter offering to use his experience in Iran to assist friendlier relation hardly seem espionage, assuming Iran has friendly intentions in their relation with the USA. Couldn't find any specific charges against the marine.
The problem is the 400million owed to Iran was supposedly spent on settling lawsuits against Iran in 2000.


well honestly i didnt digged that much, and now, reading that information, im starting to seriously doubt about anything regadring this event:

from some copy pasta of french website:

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The secret was kept for several months. It was finally revealed by the "Wall Street Journal" on Wednesday, August 3: The United States has paid at the beginning of the year $ 400 million to Iran, against the release of four of their nationals, the newspaper American.

The scenario is worthy of a spy film: bundles of money, euros and Swiss francs, for an amount representing 400 million from European central banks are arranged on pallets and then loaded into a cargo , destination of Iran.
The official version...

US officials acknowledge sending the money. But they deny any involvement in the payment of a ransom. Mark Toner, spokesman for the State Department, has stressed that "pay ransoms for hostages is contrary to US policy."

Washington says it would therefore be the repayment of debt dating back to the 1979 Islamic Revolution While the two countries broke off diplomatic relations in 1980, it was in January 2016, after the implementation of the Agreement on Iran's nuclear, Obama said he wanted to repay the amount in question. According to a regulation of the Hague tribunal, the US administration had to pay 400 million dollars in debt and $ 1.3 billion of interest.
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again lets review:
Jan 17th, 2016, four American hostages were released by the Iranian gov't. also on this date $400m in foreign cash was secretly airlifted to Tehran on an unmarked cargo plane.
later this date, Pres Obama gave a press conference about the hostage release. He did not mention the $400m payment to Iran. Iran negotiators wanted cash so that they could "have something tangible to show in return for the release."


I wonder how many lives he could have saved in Flint, Michigan with that money.
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Aug 4 2016 04:01pm
Let's give the worlds leading states sponsor of terrorism $400 million, what could go wrong
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