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#11
Jul 22 2016 08:12am
I fail to see why any of it should be classified.
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Jul 22 2016 08:16am
Quote (HimynameisMatt @ Jul 22 2016 08:12am)
I fail to see why any of it should be classified.


i think if some international criminals are still at large and being investigated for their role in the funding they shouldnt be alerted that they are under investigation. Shredders, burned piles of documents, destroyed banking records, killed interns who knew too much, etc all result from that.
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Jul 22 2016 08:33am
Quote (nineinchnailz @ Jul 22 2016 08:57am)
It appears president Bush covered up ties between the Saudi royal family, friends of the Bush family, and the 911 hijackers. At least some financing went to the hijackers from a close friend of the Bush family. Instead of the public learning of the saudi role in the attacks, we were sold a war in Iraq. I'm posting from my phone at work, and encourage others to post links here. This should get the conversation going, at least.


Proof?
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Jul 22 2016 08:34am
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Because Democrat turnout is always low for primary voting and mid-term elections. It is a rule of thumb.

Republicans came out in droves because they are loyal voters and they're pissed off at their party or hate Donald Trump. Republicans have a lot of reasons to vote, as their party hasn't accomplished anything in a very long time and it can hardly be said that they've even come to work in the past eight years.

Think about it, every major policy piece passed during the Obama Administration was not influenced by the GOP because they refused to even talk about stuff and the Republican senate leader himself said their primary goal was to stop the president from enacting an agenda. They failed worse than anyone could have imagined and Obama has had a very successful presidency despite having the worse do-nothing Congress since the one Truman ran against. They have a lot of reason to vote.

The Democratic primary, however, was determined before it started. Nobody is real excited to vote for HRC in the primary because everybody knew she was the nominee from the beginning.

If there is good weather on Super Tuesday HRC will win by a massive landslide. If there is terrible weather across the US, Trump might be competitive in some of the important states. But Trump is never going to win Ohio, and no Republican has ever become president without Ohio.


Ok, thanks for this. So a couple more questions.
While democratic primary turnout is typically low, isn't 20% decline 'something' to worry about?

Also, while he may not win Ohio, what about Pennsylvania and Michigan? Blue collar workers/middle class seem to really like him.

Overall, from a my layman's perspective, it looks like it will be close.
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Jul 22 2016 08:37am
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 22 2016 08:33am)
Proof?


28 page source incoming
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Jul 22 2016 08:54am
Quote (herbdoc @ Jul 22 2016 09:34am)
Ok, thanks for this. So a couple more questions.
While democratic primary turnout is typically low, isn't 20% decline 'something' to worry about?

Also, while he may not win Ohio, what about Pennsylvania and Michigan? Blue collar workers/middle class seem to really like him.

Overall, from a my layman's perspective, it looks like it will be close.


There were ~19 million voters in the 2008 Democratic primary altogether, while over 69M votes were casts for Barack Obama. Most Dems just stay home during the primaries.

There were ~20 million voters in the 2008 Republican primary altogether, and their candidate got below 60M votes.

This doesn't include caucuses. which are pretty small all things considered.

The vast majority of people who will vote for Donald Trump for primary are already involved in the process and have probably already voted. You can expect to see a great many more Democrats turn out for this thing.

To most Americans, there just isn't an alternative to Democratic rule. The Republicans left many millions of Americans no alternative to HRC this election.
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Jul 22 2016 09:19am
Quote (nineinchnailz @ Jul 22 2016 06:57am)
It appears president Bush covered up ties between the Saudi royal family, friends of the Bush family, and the 911 hijackers. At least some financing went to the hijackers from a close friend of the Bush family. Instead of the public learning of the saudi role in the attacks, we were sold a war in Iraq. I'm posting from my phone at work, and encourage others to post links here. This should get the conversation going, at least.


This was known a long time ago.
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#18
Jul 22 2016 09:36am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jul 22 2016 10:19am)
This was known a long time ago.


It really was. Didn't Michael Moore cover this very thoroughly?
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Jul 22 2016 09:36am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 22 2016 09:11am)
Seems the "what actually happened to building 7" page is still classified.


The commission report was completed long prior to the assessments of building 7.
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Jul 22 2016 09:47am
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 22 2016 10:36am)
It really was. Didn't Michael Moore cover this very thoroughly?


Bahahah
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