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Jun 16 2016 02:58am
Quote (josh2234 @ Jun 16 2016 05:17pm)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/fact-checking-the-figures-on-anchor-babies-1441963800


Why is there a retarded law that gives people citizenship to this great nation called the USA just because they popped out of their moms vagina within our borders??

Maria is from Mexico and very much pregnant. She illegally crosses with a group of other illegals to the USA and gives birth in a hospital paid for by the US taxpayer and has quadruplets. Those kids are now American citizens and will vote politically one way forever--- to have there mom become legal-- which generally means democratic.

Face it gentleman ... its only a matter of time before enough of these anchor babies become of age and vote in mass to have the god knows how many--- 30-40 million illegals become citizens ....

The Roman empire fell from within .... just like the USA will .. which is more sad to me than anything.

Not even the threat of nuclear Armageddon could beat this nation, because we outspent the Communist shitheads into oblivion.

Just wait for the flood gates to be unleashed .... the social welfare system's back is going to crush this nation just like batman's back was by Bane.


This is satire right?
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Jun 16 2016 04:07am
I havnt seen batman yet. Thanks
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Jun 16 2016 05:20am
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jun 16 2016 01:48am)
Funny, jus soli has been around for over a century, yet you said it's only a matter of time. So how much time? let me know so I can jot it down on my calendar.
It's cute that you're pretending you care about the future of the nation or it's children though.


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Jun 16 2016 05:25am
You want pick and choose rights.

It isn't a Chinese buffet though.
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Jun 16 2016 05:26am
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 16 2016 06:25am)
You want pick and choose rights.

It isn't a Chinese buffet though.


Subjects of another jurisdiction =/= holders of American rights.
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Jun 16 2016 06:55am
Quote (Hubris @ Jun 16 2016 01:29am)
When a culture that accepts the rape of 12 year olds is not only allowed to freely enter and obtain government support but is also defended ad lib by sjw scum, why would we expect them to change or adopt the cultural norms of USA.
Cultural norms that have allowed sjw's to exist, ie extreme tolerance and acceptance; no other major cultures have these values (I expect people to claim X tribe of random location in the world, this is not a reasonable comparison. Major culture refers to a culture that controls one or more countries).

All I can say is that we have to play the Trump card, even then it doesn't look good.


SWJs never defended the Catholic Church, this statement is BS.

Quote (TCassa89 @ Jun 16 2016 03:31am)
Where we currently are, the birth rate in the US is so low that if not for foreigners coming into the US, the country's death rate would be higher than its birth rate.. and where we currently are with the baby boomers hitting retirement age, this is hugely problematic. We are in greater need of young workers than any other point in our history. Furthermore, studies show that second generation immigrants are actually less likely to be on welfare. Admittedly their parents likely do not have the potential to be doctors or engineers, but their children who are born and educated here most definitely do. As for the lower skilled first generation, if they are in fact illegal immigrants, then they are not entitled to the same financial assistance as US citizens, that is they are not entitled to social security, they are not entitled to food stamps, they are not entitled to rent assistance. They are not entitled to the same welfare programs that US citizens are, and the children being born in the US does not grant the parents citizenship.


You can't talk sense into them. It is white America or bust.

They want to make America Great Again, back when people of color knew their place and didn't try to threaten the social order of white supremacy.

Quote (Santara @ Jun 16 2016 06:26am)
Subjects of another jurisdiction =/= holders of American rights.


Individuals who are born here are Americans who possess American rights. It is real simple.

It is funny how intransigent you guys are with the right to bear arms, yet you want to pick and choose others. Very hypocritical.

Rights are up for debate or they're not, and no right is more important than any other objectively.

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Individuals who are born here are Americans who possess American rights. It is real simple.

It is funny how intransigent you guys are with the right to bear arms, yet you want to pick and choose others. Very hypocritical.

Rights are up for debate or they're not, and no right is more important than any other objectively.


Could you point out the part of the Constitution that confers birthright citizenship? Because any educated reading of the 14th amendment rather than layperson reading says there's no such thing.
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Jun 16 2016 08:28am
What a forward thinking write up. Someone to give this person a award of some kind. :wacko:
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Jun 16 2016 08:39am
Quote (josh2234 @ Jun 16 2016 01:17am)
The Roman empire fell from within .... just like the USA will .. which is more sad to me than anything.
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Are you at all attempting to imply the roman empire fell due to poor immigration policy? lmao

There are certainly comparisons to be made amongst the two that you've intentionally or ignorantly decided to ignore, that have little to do with immigration

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Jun 16 2016 08:48am
Quote (Santara @ Jun 16 2016 08:20am)
Could you point out the part of the Constitution that confers birthright citizenship? Because any educated reading of the 14th amendment rather than layperson reading says there's no such thing.


For 90 years the states had the right to decide who was and was not a citizen or alien within their boundaries, that changed in 1866. The fact that the constitution predates it is heavily undermined by the fact that the federal govt made no law regarding this. We have the laws he have because emancipated slaves for the ball rolling, appealing strictly to the constitution is a bit silly. Especially when the 14th amendment states clearly that anyone born here is a citizen and then qualifies in unclearly with "subject to the jurisdiction". What i mean to say is that the constitution explicitly states being born here, then less clearly states jurisdiction is a factor. This is pretty evident when you look at how it applies to Indians, the framer of the 14th amendment himself made it clear he had no intent on extending citizenship rights to indians born on tribal lands in the debates that followed.

IMO put it back on the states, this is an issue that is far more problematic in some regions than others. Let Texas decide how they want to deal with an abundance of anchor babies and Minnesota decide how they want to deal with their by comparison few anchor babies.
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